Full Reach .map info

[Rifte]

So this is code pulled out from the .map files on the Reach Beta. It wasn't modified by the source, so choose whether you want to believe it or not yourselves.

Remember though, that a lot of this is most likely Halo 3/ODST coding (e.g BR, sentinel beam, ect) Hopefully the firefight stuff isn't just leftover ODST material.

These were all taken from this site (http://reapersmodz.b1.jcink.com/index.php?showtopic=879).

FORGE
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9519/reach0.png
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/5894/reach1.png (http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/5894/reach1.png)
http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/2784/reach2.png
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1861/reach3.png
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/9628/reach4.png (http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/9628/reach4.png)
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/3996/reach5.png
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/2599/reach6.png
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3309/reach7.png
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/5021/reach8.png

GAMETYPES/PLAYLISTS
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/5894/reach1.png
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/2784/reach2.png
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/1861/reach3.png
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9628/reach4.png
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/3996/reach5.png
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2599/reach6.png
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3309/reach7.png
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/5021/reach8.png
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/3338/reach9.png
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/3548/reach10.png
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/8836/reach11.png (http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/8836/reach11.png)
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/6062/reach12.png
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9237/reach13.png (http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9237/reach13.png)
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/2536/reach14.png
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/7096/reach15.png
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9003/reach16.png
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2561/reach17.png
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4782/reach18.png

WEAPON, VEHICLES, EQUIPMENT/AA
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/5894/reach1.png
http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/5015/reach2v.png
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/5168/reach3a.png
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/1700/reach3b.png
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9628/reach4.png
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3996/reach5.png (http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3996/reach5.png)
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/2599/reach6.png
http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/3309/reach7.png
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/5021/reach8.png
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/7244/reach9l.png
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/3548/reach10.png


CUSTOMIZATION
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/5894/reach1.png
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2784/reach2.png
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1861/reach3.png
http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/9628/reach4.png (http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/9628/reach4.png)
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/3996/reach5.png (http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/3996/reach5.png)
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/898/reach5n.png (http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/898/reach5n.png)
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2599/reach6.png (http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2599/reach6.png)
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/3309/reach7.png

CAMPAIGN
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/5894/reach1.png
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/2784/reach2.png
http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/7664/reach2m.png


EXTRAS/MAIN MENU
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5894/reach1.png
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1861/reach3.png


LOL WUT?
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/6467/natalg.png


I've seen the list from a couple other sources and they're the same so enjoy and speculate away.

[DIRT JOCKEY]

Thanks for posting Rifte!

Whats the difference between "Power Fist" and "Armor Lock"?

Im looking forward to using the Concussion Rifle, Seraph Fighter, Sabre, Falcon and the Revenant!

Besides the extra gametypes like "Dogfight and Soccer", Forge seems entirely unchanged...
...except for "Unique Object"...

I hope Forge has an object editor!
(Size=100, type=Immovable, Color=Metallic, Shape=Custom)

[mista tipsta]

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/2536/reach14.png
invisable?! like entirely hidden?! sweeeeet

Whats the difference between "Power Fist" and "Armor Lock"?
i was thinking power fist is what we saw in the beta teaser, but it didnt make it in..
unless what im talking about is just one of the stylized assassinations, but i dont think it is because to do those you have to be facing a players back

V this V
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v339/Shadowsth/Funny%20Gifs/2nqwgno.gif

[Rifte]

I'm not sure if it's on the list, but one of them say

Take your party to combat and objective-based missions that you select and design. Your rules, your maps, your game.
mini-campaign?

[Lost in a Void]

So... much... win. Can't even comprehend how awesome this is going to be.

[Skittlemeister]

Oh wow, that's so cool! A lot of information that can be used by modders, too ;P

That's pretty awesome, rifte, thanks for posting.

[Executie]

They said firebomb grenades aren't in the game. this is shopped.
They took some H3 code, and shopped in items people WANT for reach.

[Boston]

I wonder what "Battle Sim" is? It is in the Extra/Main Menu section.

[Executie]

I wonder what "Battle Sim" is? It is in the Extra/Main Menu section.
Its non-existant.

[DIRT JOCKEY]

Just because its not in the game, doesnt mean they deleted it out of the code

[Rifte]

They said firebomb grenades aren't in the game. this is shopped.
They took some H3 code, and shopped in items people WANT for reach.
No, those are just codes from H3 or ODST like I said before. Think of it like when H2 codes were found in the H3 beta.

I wonder what "Battle Sim" is? It is in the Extra/Main Menu section.
Battle Sim...ulator?

[Executie]

Seraphs are only used in space. Not happening.

[Skittlemeister]

Seraphs are only used in space. Not happening.
Damn she knows her stuff.

[Rifte]

Seraphs are only used in space. Not happening.
Are you saying they can only be used in space?

And because you believe one thing doesn't seem right everything is immediately wrong?

Also, where does it say press to drive seraph? I only see a mention of the seraph which if I'm correct can mean anything. Look at Halo 2, there were seraphs. Were they flow in space?

[DIRT JOCKEY]

Seraphs are only used in space. Not happening.


Maybe there is a Space Campaign...

[Executie]

You follow noble team in reach, assuming you don't stray from that, there won't be a space campaign.

[MetaWaddleDee]

Press RB to call in Seraph airstrike.

[Executie]

That would be the most retarded game mechanic since armor lock.

[Rifte]

You follow noble team in reach, assuming you don't stray from that, there won't be a space campaign.
Seeing them flying in the distance?..

[DimmestBread]

You follow noble team in reach, assuming you don't stray from that, there won't be a space campaign.

but there can be a cutscene in space in the beginning, like in halo 2. Noble team could be on a ship at some time for some reason. We won't know until release.

[Executie]

You Wouldn't need programming for a cutscene other than start and stop.

[Boston]

but there can be a cutscene in space in the beginning, like in halo 2. Noble team could be on a ship at some time for some reason. We won't know until release.

Exactly. Like I have said, I will have an open mind and say that most of this is legit and potentially will be the in the final version of the game. It's also like I said about AA's. If people think these AA's are fake, then come up with at least 5 others that would be just as legit and be able to work into the game...

Also, this came from the same modding site and I think this is evidence that supports their claims.

Evidence

[Rifte]

Tom Morello said that when he played Reach there was a hologram AA. just sayin'

[Zackj191]

That would be the most retarded game mechanic since armor lock.


Armor Lock isn't retarded, it's only retarded to people who don't know how to time grenades.

Also, I totally agree this is a fake list. I say we trust the MODDERS who made this. I don't know about you, but to me, Modders are usually people who seek attention that's why they mod.

[Executie]

LOL show me where the rocket hog is on that list, it only further proves it is bullshit.
EDIT:
4 people + armor lock = worst game of halo ever played. Once people learn how to abuse the game, it will get MUCH worse.
Anyone play MW2 the first couple days? It was gr8. Now? not so much.
2nd edit: This list was made after tom morello's stuff, if he said nothing, it would not be on this list.

[MetaWaddleDee]

LOL show me where the rocket hog is on that list, it only further proves it is bullshit.
EDIT:
4 people + armor lock = worst game of halo ever played. Once people learn how to abuse the game, it will get MUCH worse.
Anyone play MW2 the first couple days? It was gr8. Now? not so much.

4 people with armor lock = change your playstyle.

[Boston]

LOL show me where the rocket hog is on that list, it only further proves it is bullshit.
EDIT:
4 people + armor lock = worst game of halo ever played. Once people learn how to abuse the game, it will get MUCH worse.
Anyone play MW2 the first couple days? It was gr8. Now? not so much.
2nd edit: This list was made after tom morello's stuff, if he said nothing, it would not be on this list.

That video came from another thread with another list similar to this...

And yeah, Armor Lock isn't really bad at all. I don't use it, but it is very easy to counter...

[Executie]

4 people with armor lock = change your playstyle.
Elaborate. Id love to hear this.

[Boston]

Elaborate. Id love to hear this.

You said you sold your 360 so have you even played the Beta? I'm just curious.

[MetaWaddleDee]

Elaborate. Id love to hear this.

I tried to, but I have no Idea how its bothersome if four guys have Armor lock, give me an example.

[Executie]

You said you sold your 360 so have you even played the Beta? I'm just curious.
I played it at friends house.

[Rifte]

LOL show me where the rocket hog is on that list, it only further proves it is bullshit.
EDIT:
4 people + armor lock = worst game of halo ever played. Once people learn how to abuse the game, it will get MUCH worse.
Anyone play MW2 the first couple days? It was gr8. Now? not so much.
2nd edit: This list was made after tom morello's stuff, if he said nothing, it would not be on this list.
Look at the list. See how there are some missing numbers? Incomplete list.

[Executie]

I tried to, but I have no Idea how its bothersome if four guys have Armor lock, give me an example.
Get one guy no shields * Armor Lock* Friends comes, nade him to one shot *Armor lock* when you go back to the first one, he is full shields, rinse and repeat. Now think of it with four of them.

Look at the list. See how there are some missing numbers? Incomplete list.
Not with vehicles.

[DIRT JOCKEY]

LOL show me where the rocket hog is on that list, it only further proves it is bullshit.

Its at the very bottom

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/3309/reach7.png

[MetaWaddleDee]

Get one guy no shields * Armor Lock* Friends comes, nade him to one shot *Armor lock* when you go back to the first one, he is full shields, rinse and repeat. Now think of it with four of them.


Not with vehicles.

Armor lock doesn't even give you enough time to recharge at all, it gives you enough time for you to JUST START to recharge, so when he gets out, hes killable. Just make sure if hes in lock to heal, time a nade to blast him away.

and if more people come in, regardless if they have Armor lock or Jetpack, they are a threat.

[Rifte]

Get one guy no shields * Armor Lock* Friends comes, nade him to one shot *Armor lock* when you go back to the first one, he is full shields, rinse and repeat. Now think of it with four of them.

Don't just go running in by yourself against multiple enemies and getting killed then.

[Executie]

Armor lock doesn't even give you enough time to recharge at all, it gives you enough time for you to JUST START to recharge, so when he gets out, hes killable. Just make sure if hes in lock to heal, time a nade to blast him away.

and if more people come in, regardless if they have Armor lock or Jetpack, they are a threat.
As soon as you turn to face the other guy, any person thats not an idiot would hide/teamshot.
Don't just go running in by yourself against multiple enemies and getting killed then.
It works in a 4v3 as well, this would be the only strategy i could see that people play in packs.

[MetaWaddleDee]

As soon as you turn to face the other guy, any person thats not an idiot would hide/teamshot.


What?

Alright so let me get this straight, you and the AL guy are fighting, he ALs and his teammate walks in and kill you?

is this the situation?

Because thats THE POINT of armor lock, to stall, be for a teammate or for time.

He deserves that kill because the AL guy sacrificed his mobility by picking AL instead of Sprint Camo or Jetpack.

[Zackj191]

You're right, but 1 grenade kills. It permeates through shields and damages HP.

http://i39.tinypic.com/2ihwj8x.jpg

[Zackj191]

What?

Alright so let me get this straight, you and the AL guy are fighting, he ALs and his teammate walks in and kill you?

is this the situation?

Because thats THE POINT of armor lock, to stall, be for a teammate or for time.

He deserves that kill because the AL guy sacrificed his mobility by picking AL instead of Sprint Camo or Jetpack.



AL is also a team ability. It is virtually useless when you are alone besides if you stick someone or they are charging you with a hammer.

[Executie]

What?
He deserves that kill because the AL guy sacrificed his mobility by picking AL instead of Sprint Camo or Jetpack.

No. Those aren't deserved.
PS: The Revenant doesn't exist. unless you are talking about the frigate.

[MetaWaddleDee]

No. Those aren't deserved.

Then we are at a disagreement.

[Rifte]

PS: The Revenant doesn't exist. unless you are talking about the frigate.
New vehicles... >.>

[Executie]

Can't wait till this is proven wrong.

[SpamRabbit]

Can't wait till this is proven wrong.
what no more arguments left?

Cant wait for Reach. that Johnson campaiugn mission intro seems very cool.

[DeathsFriend22]

I don't think the forge stuff is faked. Look at line 308, it talks about items spawning unique to this location only and not in other locations of the same type.

Tell me, when in H3 can you "drop" weapons into certain locations based on the area around it without setting up a specific spawn point?


...I hope this didn't come out as too retarded. I'm pretty tired right now.

[MultiLockOn]

Its at the very bottom

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/3309/reach7.png
I give you mad props for looking through the code to find that, good work man.

[Coyote1023]

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Alright, settle down children...

[wiggums]

I believe.

I believe because it makes me so much more excited.

[MNM1245]

Ok those Firefight settings look awesome. I can pick what each squad type is? Yes please. I can pick what happens on a Boss Wave? YES! I love those options and I haven't seen half the stuff.

Did Sean(The guy who founded the Reapers) get these cause I was talking to him about some stuff. Or was it someone else on his site?

[Tim]

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Alright, settle down children...

I agree. Don't give us the option of locking this thread, which at the current rate, will end up being the outcome.

Second thing to note, I wouldn't trust this type of information until you actually have the game in your hands or it comes from the developer themselves. While this code looks very legit and convincing, I remember reading a leaked Halo 3 script that was totally the opposite of how the final game turned out. If I remember correctly, Master Chief was fighting the flood and the forerunners on the arc, and the forerunners were the main enemies. I'll give you a cookie if you tell me what didn't make it into the final game.

Moral of the story: Not everything you hear from hackers is true and arguing over this type of stuff is stupid. It's an interesting discovery, but that's about it.

[Boston]

I agree. Don't give us the option of locking this thread, which at the current rate, will end up being the outcome.

Second thing to note, I wouldn't trust this type of information until you actually have the game in your hands or it comes from the developer themselves. While this code looks very legit and convincing, I remember reading a leaked Halo 3 script that was totally the opposite of how the final game turned out. If I remember correctly, Master Chief was fighting the flood and the forerunners on the arc, and the forerunners were the main enemies. I'll give you a cookie if you tell me what didn't make it into the final game.

Moral of the story: Not everything you hear from hackers is true and arguing over this type of stuff is stupid. It's an interesting discovery, but that's about it.

My only thing was that it looks legit enough for me to believe. Plus, that video footage was enough for me to be convinced that most of this stuff is true. ;)

[Tim]

My only thing was that it looks legit enough for me to believe. Plus, that video footage was enough for me to be convinced that most of this stuff is true. ;)

It could be. I'd rather hear it from a more reliable source. The fat hacker who's 35 and lives in his mother's basement is not the type of source I would rely on for Halo: Reach information.

[Boston]

It could be. I'd rather hear it from a more reliable source. The fat hacker who's 35 and lives in his mother's basement is not the type of source I want to rely on for Halo: Reach information.

Lol. I think we can all agree on that - however I am banking on this hacker is not the fat 35 year old who lives in his mom's basement with no life and hasn't seen the sun in years - and loves to spread lies....XD

[wiggums]

AL is also a team ability. It is virtually useless when you are alone besides if you stick someone or they are charging you with a hammer.
HAVE YOU NOT SEEN MY MONTAGE????

[InnerSandman13]

Not legit. One reason. If you look near the top of the weapon list, what does it say? BATTLE RIFLE. Your OP has been....
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/640/20080901rejected5027860.gif (http://img243.imageshack.us/i/20080901rejected5027860.gif/)

[Letol]

then come up with at least 5 others that would be just as legit and be able to work into the game...

I don't see what that would prove, you guys don't even know what the other supposed Armor Abilities would do if they existed. But, here goes anyways:

-Color Swap
-Fake Death
-Health Pack
-Spark
-Sacrifice

Just about as vague as the "real" Armor Abilities, yet I could see them working with Halo mechanics the way I envisioned them. Pretty much, at least. Either way, no one ever thought jetpacks would work before they were announced for Reach... lol.

Second thing to note, I wouldn't trust this type of information until you actually have the game in your hands or it comes from the developer themselves. While this code looks very legit and convincing, I remember reading a leaked Halo 3 script that was totally the opposite of how the final game turned out. If I remember correctly, Master Chief was fighting the flood and the forerunners on the arc, and the forerunners were the main enemies. I'll give you a cookie if you tell me what didn't make it into the final game.

Moral of the story: Not everything you hear from hackers is true and arguing over this type of stuff is stupid. It's an interesting discovery, but that's about it.

This 1000 times over.

[Rifte]

Not legit. One reason. If you look near the top of the weapon list, what does it say? BATTLE RIFLE. Your OP has been....
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/640/20080901rejected5027860.gif (http://img243.imageshack.us/i/20080901rejected5027860.gif/)
Take the time to read what I said in the OP.


Did Sean(The guy who founded the Reapers) get these cause I was talking to him about some stuff. Or was it someone else on his site?
In the post he says "All this is info I pulled from the .map files", so I'm assuming that he did.

Also, there are topics like this on several other forums like this (http://www.360zone.net/halo-reach/1861-new-reach-info.html#post3572) one. They didn't come in this kind of format, but are still very similar content wise.

And again, it's really up to you if you want to believe if this is legit or not. I for one think this is real (when I say this I mean none of the content was changed by the source), lots of the code shown may not be in the final game, but I'm not going to stereotype every single modder/hacker as pedophiles living in basements and instantly assume all this is fake.

[DIRT JOCKEY]

-Color Swap
-Fake Death
-Health Pack
-Spark
-Sacrifice


Dude, these all sound awesome!

[Boston]

I don't see what that would prove, you guys don't even know what the other supposed Armor Abilities would do if they existed. But, here goes anyways:

-Color Swap
-Fake Death
-Health Pack
-Spark
-Sacrifice

Just about as vague as the "real" Armor Abilities, yet I could see them working with Halo mechanics the way I envisioned them. Pretty much, at least. Either way, no one ever thought jetpacks would work before they were announced for Reach... lol.



This 1000 times over.

Lol. Well then. I guess you showed me. I still think these are legit however ;P

Take the time to read what I said in the OP.


In the post he says "All this is info I pulled from the .map files", so I'm assuming that he did.

Also, there are topics like this on several other forums like this (http://www.360zone.net/halo-reach/1861-new-reach-info.html#post3572) one. They didn't come in this kind of format, but are still very similar content wise.

And again, it's really up to you if you want to believe if this is legit or not. I for one think this is real (when I say this I mean none of the content was changed by the source), lots of the code shown may not be in the final game, but I'm not going to stereotype every single modder/hacker as pedophiles living in basements and instantly assume all this is fake.

I agree with you here.

[Zackj191]

Hey, did you guys hear about the revival pack? It revives dead team mates.

Also, the speed warp, it shoots your spartan/elite forward about 5 seconds of running speed.

(jk about that second one, the first one my friend told me about after he played with a Bungie employee, I trust his credibility, but I don't know how legit the guy claiming to be from Bungie was)

[Letol]

Also, there are topics like this on several other forums like this (http://www.360zone.net/halo-reach/1861-new-reach-info.html#post3572) one. They didn't come in this kind of format, but are still very similar content wise.

I'm sure that there are loads of people who changed the format of the list or completely retyped it to take credit for it, whether it be real or fake. Not saying that they did or that this list is false, but we all know that there are people out there that would and probably have done it already.

And again, it's really up to you if you want to believe if this is legit or not. I for one think this is real (when I say this I mean none of the content was changed by the source), lots of the code shown may not be in the final game, but I'm not going to stereotype every single modder/hacker as pedophiles living in basements and instantly assume all this is fake.

I don't stereotype, I base off of previous experience. ;P

But really, while I personally don't instantly stereotype all of these guys as "pedophiles living in basements", I'll almost always instantly assume that the info they release is fake. I'm not sure how long you've hung around their "communities", but they all tend to be absurdly exclusive. Most of the forums that even mention "modding" are plagued with people trying to work their way into the higher ranks and most exclusive areas to learn more information for themselves. Many people have pulled stunts like this one in the past, although most don't become so popular around the internet.

Now look, don't get me wrong, there are some genuinely good people at those sites that know much more than any of us could even imagine, but they aren't the type of people that would release something like this, especially for the publicity. They stay extremely exclusive in order to prevent circumstances such as Halo 2 and keep practically everything they learn and do to themselves. While I'm not going to blatantly say that this list is fake, I'm just going to say that I highly doubt it to be anywhere near true.

Oh, and I know that you didn't direct that at me, I just felt the need to answer to it.

[JEEF]

revenant + revenant gunner = H2 Specter :)

[MNM1245]

I doubt this is legit but honestly if those Firefight settings are true I hope you can set all the squads to suicide grunts. Or flood. Something that won't shoot back and just tries to get close. I like that about Nazi Zombies that they don't shoot back. I just hope that now I don't die because random skulls activate. I want to die in Firefight from an overwhelming amount of enemies.

Also I think people are believing this stuff so strongly because they want some info to be pumped for. This info does it. I think some of it is too good to be true.

[Letol]

Also I think people are believing this stuff so strongly because they want some info to be pumped for. This info does it. I think some of it is too good to be true.

I'm still not going to say that it's fake or true, since there is no way to prove either side, but I feel that it all comes down to the question:

Are people believing it due to it's logicality or are people believing it due to the convenience it provides?

[Executie]

I'm still not going to say that it's fake or true, since there is no way to prove either side, but I feel that it all comes down to the question:

Are people believing it due to it's logicality or are people believing it due to the convenience it provides?
Its what they want to hear.

[wiggums]

I just want that fucking umbrella that bungie promised me.

[DimmestBread]

Its what they want to hear.

Or maybe its real. Who knows except bungie. Anyway, I agree with someone above. I hope if there is firefight that skulls don't activate. There are just more and more enemies and you get overwhelmed when you die.

[Hadokenchild]

Hey, did you guys hear about the revival pack? It revives dead team mates.

Wait....Bungie nerfed the ability to respawn?

[MetaWaddleDee]

Wait....Bungie nerfed the ability to respawn?

It was probably Sage...

[Rifte]

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100327014757/halo/images/4/4a/Reach_customization_Concepts.jpg
Probably all the customizable parts.
http://www.bungie.net/images/News/Inline10/060410/armory.jpg
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/5894/reach1.png

I could see this happening. BTW, the camo patterns have been confirmed by pictures from Bungie. The only one missing from the list are the knees and I think I can prove why.

The coding for the knees weren't in the beta. If so, the glitches where dead bodies pop up in the form of new armor would have had different knee parts as well but they didn't. They had different helmets, chests, attachments and even genders, but not knee guards. I haven't seen any mods yet from the beta where the models had different knee guards.

[MNM1245]

I could see this happening. BTW, the camo patterns have been confirmed by pictures from Bungie.

What pictures? Could you post them. I never saw those and it sounds pretty sweet.

[Rifte]

http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Reach/images/screenshots/042110/Reach_MPBeta_GenDefense04.jpg

[Loscocco]

http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Reach/images/screenshots/042110/Reach_MPBeta_GenDefense04.jpg

People have been discussing this picture, but that doesn't look like camouflage. On his arms, that is what the default arm looks like and there is no camo on the rest of the body...

[Rifte]

legs, his belt it seems (left and right) and right above the crotch. for all we know, camoflauge could just be an extended player color or something.

[MNM1245]

legs, his belt it seems (left and right) and right above the crotch. for all we know, camoflauge could just be an extended player color or something.

That's the picture of camofluage? Pretty sure it's just mud on his legs, his belt is worn and old which is the new style in Reach, and there are some shadows. That is definitely not camofluage.

[Hadokenchild]

That's the picture of camofluage? Pretty sure it's just mud on his legs, his belt is worn and old which is the new style in Reach, and there are some shadows. That is definitely not camofluage.

Yeah it's definitely camo. I didn't think so either till I expanded the picture and you can clearly see the camo pattern on his arms and calfs.
- Also noticed that neither spartan is wearing knee pads.

[Rifte]

So guys, in the E3 2010 demo today there was a new vehicle called a "sabre". In this list, there is also a vehicle called a sabre. In addition, the vehicle was flyable. In the list, it says "pilot" rather than "operate" sabre.
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/5021/reach8.png

Seraphs are only used in space. Not happening.

You follow noble team in reach, assuming you don't stray from that, there won't be a space campaign.

Proven totally wrong.

[Cerity Insighed]

This along with the fact that I have a friend who has modding programs and looked at the .map files himself, I'm convinced. I feel like going through this whole list just to get myself excited.

[PsychoBucket]

Yeah it's definitely camo. I didn't think so either till I expanded the picture and you can clearly see the camo pattern on his arms and calfs.
- Also noticed that neither spartan is wearing knee pads.

Yah, at first I thought they were talking about camo as in invisibility. Then I expanded the picture :facepalm:

[Rifte]

Sooo after today and everything new announced (customizable firefight, concussion rifle, ect) I think this list has been pretty much proven true and unchanged by the source.

[MNM1245]

Ya honestly I was skeptical of the list but now I'm pumped because so far it has been right about a few things and it will probably be right about more.

[mista tipsta]

seems like more and more of this is becoming true, and it makes me wonder what the Repulser Amour Ability does

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3996/reach5.png

[Coyote1023]

I would think it would push people away from you.

ammo pack- refill a clip of ammo?
power fist- No idea... I think a 1-hit melee would be a little much
sensor pack- larger radar or enhanced radar?
super jump- lower gravity or one really big jump? So less time than jetpack but maybe faster?
emp- don't see the point, we have AL, unless of course it emps a larger radius than AL...

Hologram- They confirmed that it lasts X amount of time and walks in a straight line up to where your cursor was pointing. I bet it lasts until the meter runs out or if you end it.

[mista tipsta]

I would think it would push people away from you.

ammo pack- refill a clip of ammo?
thats the best guess i got

power fist- No idea... I think a 1-hit melee would be a little much
i've already spoke my words for this :P


i was thinking power fist is what we saw in the beta teaser, but it didnt make it in..
unless what im talking about is just one of the stylized assassinations, but i dont think it is because to do those you have to be facing a players back

V this V
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v339/Shadowsth/Funny%20Gifs/2nqwgno.gif

sensor pack- larger radar or enhanced radar?
this and/or waypoints over the enemy's head

super jump- lower gravity or one really big jump? So less time than jetpack but maybe faster?
i dont even

emp- don't see the point, we have AL, unless of course it emps a larger radius than AL...
walking Power Drain? that would be a pain in the ass
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[Artifex]

Lol I love how everyone was like "NO THIS IS TOTALLY HAX!" Regardless, its looking fun, maybe I'll actually decide to buy Reach.

[mista tipsta]

Lol I love how everyone was like "NO THIS IS TOTALLY HAX!" Regardless, its looking fun, maybe I'll actually decide to buy Reach.
there was a part of you that thought about NOT buying it? :what:

[Rifte]

super jump
http://www.dynamiksport.co.uk/images/Spring%20Boots.jpg
Like dat

I think ammo pack will play more of a support role kind of like the medic drop shield class.

EMP I'm assuming will be like armor lock but sends out a wider burst of EMP and doesn't give temporary invincibility like armor lock.

Lol I love how everyone was like "NO THIS IS TOTALLY HAX!" Regardless, its looking fun, maybe I'll actually decide to buy Reach.
Honestly, If I see someone (who was bitching ealier in the thread) edit their post to make them self look less moronic I will lose all respect for them.

[Artifex]

there was a part of you that thought about NOT buying it? :what:

I think I have a pretty obvious history of hating Halo 3 for being extremely bland compared to its predecessors. Its only saving grace being forge.

http://www.dynamiksport.co.uk/images/Spring%20Boots.jpg
Like dat

I think ammo pack will play more of a support role kind of like the medic drop shield class.

Totally, like the Medic class is supposed to be a support role in BFBC2 and the assualt class if supposed to give everyone ammo when they need it. :rolleyes: It'll most likely end up like OMA did in MW2 (even though that was a personal trait not a 'team' skill)

[Given to Fly]

I also believe this is shopped.
Wasn't it a fact the Battle rifle was not going to be in Reach?
I don't have proof, but I'm also positive.

And...
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/5168/reach3a.png

This says Picked up ammo for DMR, along with BR...

Oh and Super jump? Reallly...?
Why would Bungie create a superjump if theres jetpack?

This list just doesn't at all prove anything in my mind.

[Rifte]

I also believe this is shopped.
Wasn't it a fact the Battle rifle was not going to be in Reach?
I don't have proof, but I'm also positive.

And...
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/5168/reach3a.png

This says Picked up ammo for DMR, along with BR...

Oh and Super jump? Reallly...?
Why would Bungie create a superjump if theres jetpack?

This list just doesn't at all prove anything in my mind.
read what I said in the OP first, Given.

It'd also help if you read the thread itself a bit too.

[Letol]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v339/Shadowsth/Funny%20Gifs/2nqwgno.gif

At the very beginning, you can see the spartan on the left flailing his arms in the direction he is turning as if he was pulled around to face the other spartan. Probably just a normal assassination, though, of course, none of us know yet.

[Given to Fly]

read what I said in the OP first, Given.

It'd also help if you read the thread itself a bit too.

I did Mr. Gifle. I just don't understand why the DMR and BR things are together without every other gun.Wouldn't ODST and Halo 3 items be on seperate charts?

[Coyote1023]

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/5015/reach2v.png

That list includes all of the reach weapons with Halo 3/ODST weapons. The reason for this is because mods can only COPY data. So when they copy the weapon cache, they get all weapons on the ODST disc. This happened to be Reach and ODST stuff. That's it.

[Given to Fly]

I suppose that I can accept that, :)
Just not a few other things. "You'll never convince me super jump exists"

[Vandal]

I want to believe it