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Kenny M
09-11-2008, 07:04 PM
September Forgery Challenge

Hey long time no see guys! Master Reviewer here and are you guys ready for the September Forgery Challenge!?.


This challenge will be a new experience to all including myself as you will do something really cool and interesting for the next challenge.

The challenge is..

*fanfare* To build a map off of a Template (http://www.bungie.net/forums/posts.aspx?h3fileid=52694026).
Here are some pictures of the Template
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w309/naruto1783/abb.jpg

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w309/naruto1783/aaaaaaaaa-1.jpg

There are only three things you need to know for this challenge.

-You cannot by any means delete any items off the template
-You cannot move any item from the template itself
-You can modify the template such as merging through it or altering it to make different entrances but nothing shall be moved from its place

Post your map for September challenge in this thread

and ask questions about the September challenge here (http://www.xforgery.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5774#post5774)

If you have any questions Pm Me (http://www.xforgery.com/forum/private.php?do=newpm&u=6), Thomas (http://www.xforgery.com/forum/private.php?do=newpm&u=1), or Null (http://www.xforgery.com/forum/private.php?do=newpm&u=2)

You have till October 28th to put your map in.

To the winner goes....... 2 Months of Supporter Status!!! So instead of wasting your time forging you can waste your time bloggin'!

So have fun and try your best.

All the best from XForgery Staff!:thumbup:

Ja Red is Ninja
09-11-2008, 07:47 PM
yay. this is gonna be awesome. my friends site had one of these and it is really fun. I'll get working when I get home!!!

xInfamous2x
09-11-2008, 09:23 PM
Wow, i really didnt plan on entering anything new to this next challenge, but this really gets infy's imagination flowing.
Ive actually seen this done on other sites, and really liked the idea, luckily you guys caught on and implemented it.

i cant wait to see what everyone comes up with, and with the double month time, i think each will be awesome and have just enough time for testing and all!

Murdock Sampson
09-11-2008, 09:52 PM
Hello but your template link goes to the questions page.... unless i clicked the wrong one.

i'll try again... but look into it

Null Parameter
09-11-2008, 10:11 PM
Link to Template has been fixed, and I'm very sorry to say this, but I'm pretty sure that the October deadline was a typo, but Kenny will have to verify that.

Kenny M
09-12-2008, 02:47 PM
Link to Template has been fixed, and I'm very sorry to say this, but I'm pretty sure that the October deadline was a typo, but Kenny will have to verify that.


Not at all. Thomas and I were speaking on the matter and we both agreed for the end of October. Since September is almost over already.

Denominator
09-12-2008, 05:56 PM
Since September is almost over already.

What are you smoking? It's the 13th. There are still 17 full days left.

DeathsFriend22
09-12-2008, 05:59 PM
What are you smoking? It's the 13th. There are still 17 full days left.

lol what are you smoking? It's the 12th :p

Null Parameter
09-12-2008, 06:01 PM
Yeah, that was my exact thought as well. (?)

Denominator
09-12-2008, 06:28 PM
lol what are you smoking? It's the 12th :p

Sweet. I just gained back a day of my life.

a hobo001
09-14-2008, 01:58 PM
I shall try it seems fun an this is the best map for me to forge on :thumbup: Good luck 2 all

thatdamnhippie
09-14-2008, 06:02 PM
all the forgeing of maps im doing right now are about to drop and hit the ground hard. this will be first priority :D

xInfamous2x
09-15-2008, 01:50 AM
lol gollum brought it up as a good point.

you never state that one cannot use a map other then the template for entry.

Null Parameter
09-15-2008, 08:52 AM
Personally, that's common sense, but for those without it.

You must submit a final map utilizing the original template map given.

Defiance
09-22-2008, 03:42 PM
Couldn't you just build around the template?

xInfamous2x
09-22-2008, 03:44 PM
yeah you could.

i was almost going to do this..
or, i was going to take iric tower.. and rebuild the template on it.. claiming i remade my map lolololol..

but kenny made it to sloppy to rebuild.

so im making something else..
shhhhhh its a secwet.

Null Parameter
09-22-2008, 03:45 PM
Couldn't you just build around the template?
Again, common sense.

The Template must be included as playable area in the map.

We're not going to enforce that EVERY inch of it must be used, but if you block off a large majority of the template, your map will be docked.

Kyyrbes
09-22-2008, 04:38 PM
I got bored when I found out that the template is 1. sloppy, and 2. terra-formed. I got in, started terra-forming other boxes into the ground, watched as they fell through the floor and disappeared, removed halo 3 from the xbox, put in COD4, enjoyed the rest of the day.

Kenny M
09-22-2008, 04:41 PM
I got bored when I found out that the template is 1. sloppy, and 2. terra-formed. I got in, started terra-forming other boxes into the ground, watched as they fell through the floor and disappeared, removed halo 3 from the xbox, put in COD4, enjoyed the rest of the day.

First off how is the map sloppily built? I was rushed to finished it and its so I know what was moved and what wasn't. Second what the hell is terra-formed.

Kyyrbes
09-22-2008, 04:48 PM
First off how is the map sloppily built? I was rushed to finished it and its so I know what was moved and what wasn't. Second what the hell is terra-formed.
1. Don't rush to finish it then.Everything was not straight/flat
2. Terra-formed, (v.) to be formed into the terrain; melted; molded. Interlocked

Kenny M
09-22-2008, 04:50 PM
So your saying Geo-merged? the only thing that was not straight was the double boxes and I'm sorry Thomas was down my back to finish.

Thomas
09-22-2008, 05:01 PM
So your saying Geo-merged? the only thing that was not straight was the double boxes and I'm sorry Thomas was down my back to finish.Yes, Geo-merged = terraformed. An easy way to get your boxes the same height as Kenny's is to use the *door-trick.

No I wasn't, in fact Null and I clearly remember me offering to either find someone to build the template (previous contest winners?) or I was going to myself but you had a fit that yours was nearly done already.


*Not explaining the whole technique here.

Ganye
09-22-2008, 05:42 PM
Kenny, did I see you working on this during the July Frogery Challenge?:thumbdown:

Kyyrbes
09-22-2008, 05:48 PM
I was using the box trick, and if you use the box trick too many times, the boxes fall through the bottom of the map.

Kenny M
09-22-2008, 05:49 PM
I was using the box trick, and if you use the box trick too many times, the boxes fall through the bottom of the map.

What are you talking about? and Yea iv'e been working on it for months.

COB BunnysRMe77
09-22-2008, 07:14 PM
I was there while he was doing most of it (in about an hour)! So i saw it before you guys did, but I am not entering the contest.

Shell
09-22-2008, 07:21 PM
I saw it before you Bunny's and don't ask why. Also, this template will be used in the near future, in a secret project Kenny and I are going to do.

Null Parameter
09-22-2008, 07:23 PM
I saw it before you Bunny's and don't ask why. Also, this template will be used in the near future, in a secret project Kenny and I are going to do.
Hopefully for the Challenge, right?

Shell
09-22-2008, 08:00 PM
Hopefully Null, but if not, you'll see it no matter what.

xInfamous2x
09-22-2008, 10:23 PM
kenny..

your template is muy muy sloppy.

seriously... it demotivated me to try on a competitive map..
hints why im trying something different..

also null..
it is NOT common sense to incorperate the template.. the template is there. i feel building around it will cause such a different style idea that it is too incorperating the template. not to mention the outside aesthetics can play a big role in the map..

and who wouldent want to showcase kenny's Shitty awesome Tube.

Murdock Sampson
09-22-2008, 11:54 PM
kenny..

your template is muy muy sloppy.

seriously... it demotivated me to try on a competitive map..
hints why im trying something different..

also null..
it is NOT common sense to incorperate the template.. the template is there. i feel building around it will cause such a different style idea that it is too incorperating the template. not to mention the outside aesthetics can play a big role in the map..

and who wouldent want to showcase kenny's Shitty awesome Tube.

yes.

i agree. my map is mostly built around the map. meaning that the tunnel is just there. any other sort of structure could serve the purpose, maybe even better.

Null Parameter
09-23-2008, 12:03 AM
also null..
it is NOT common sense to incorperate the template.. the template is there. i feel building around it will cause such a different style idea that it is too incorperating the template. not to mention the outside aesthetics can play a big role in the map..

and who wouldent want to showcase kenny's Shitty awesome Tube.
Incorporating the outside is still incorporating it. I just said that you had to include it in your map. The point is to use it in a creative way, as long as you use it.

If, in the end, it is a toss up when it comes to scores of who is going to win the challenge. It is going to go to the person who used the whole thing, not the person who used the outsides of the tube as walls in their map.

thatdamnhippie
09-23-2008, 05:58 AM
I dont know about you guys, but yeah it is a little sloppy but I dont care im utilizing the whole dam thing. So I think you guys should suck it up and use the template. :P

Sean
09-28-2008, 01:04 PM
im starting now.

Morphine
10-08-2008, 09:13 AM
I'm proud to say I've finished my map last night and all I need now is some testing/tweaking. I was wonder what we do in order to submit it? Just post it to the boards and pm a link to Kenny?

Null Parameter
10-08-2008, 09:20 AM
I'm proud to say I've finished my map last night and all I need now is some testing/tweaking. I was wonder what we do in order to submit it? Just post it to the boards and pm a link to Kenny?
Post it to the site and post a link to the thread right here.

Thomas and I started a very interesting one right away, but he hasn't been online at all lately (sad face).

Thomas
10-08-2008, 02:47 PM
Post it to the site and post a link to the thread right here.

Thomas and I started a very interesting one right away, but he hasn't been online at all lately (sad face).
Box has Error 74. I told you that last night... :(

Null Parameter
10-08-2008, 02:48 PM
Doesn't change the fact that you haven't been online.
And, you didn't have that error the whole time.

Are you getting that fixed?

Null Parameter
10-19-2008, 12:16 AM
Figured I would give a reminder to people that you only have 9 days left for the challenge.

Who thinks they will be entering a map?

PsychoBucket
10-19-2008, 08:22 AM
Hmm I sort of forgot about this. Well at least I still have a few days.

DeathsFriend22
10-19-2008, 11:11 AM
I actually may not be able to....I totally forgot.

If i don't I'll still be entering a map using this template, just not for this challenge.

a hobo001
10-25-2008, 03:28 PM
this was Harder than i wass expecting the maps i made were horrible

Null Parameter
10-25-2008, 04:17 PM
3 Days Remaining!

Submission due on the 28th.

Morphine
10-25-2008, 05:43 PM
Here is my submission (http://www.xforgery.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8287#post8287), looks like I might have this one by default due to farcry and fable. :p

DeathsFriend22
10-25-2008, 08:06 PM
NEVAR!! I'ma throw a map together in like 6 hours total now, just because you said that :O

a hobo001
10-27-2008, 07:28 AM
ill post one lol if i didnt delete it XD

a hobo001
10-27-2008, 04:38 PM
Damn i deleted it :( ill let everyone kno what it was it was a spin off i tried makin it look like Area 51

DeathsFriend22
10-27-2008, 07:02 PM
actually...I'm not entering. lol

Morphine
10-29-2008, 12:20 PM
You have till October 28th to put your map in.

So, I assume I win?:cool:

Null Parameter
10-29-2008, 12:44 PM
So, I assume I win?:cool:
Because of the 1 map circumstance, I'm going to offer up one last chance for other members.

Does anybody have a map to submit to the competition?

a hobo001
10-29-2008, 09:27 PM
I dont think anyone else is gonna post if u do another template map ill try the contest but this one made my brain hurt i sat thinkin bout it way too much :\

Morphine
10-30-2008, 02:30 PM
I dont think anyone else is gonna post

I agree, I think if for the next challenge it should be something more general such as competitive 4v4 map for a tournament. This way more people would be inclined to enter.

Although it's kind of sad the state of this site, considering there was about 2 months to do this thing and I was the only person who bothered to enter. It just seems like most people on this site are over halo 3 for now. There hasn't really been much action on the map submitting front or reviewing recently...

Personally, I feel that an overhauling of some of the promoted staff for more interested members and including more of a focus on attracting new members would help the site become more active, but it's not really my place to say. I'm just disappointed/concerned with the lack of interest from the community. :(

Null Parameter
10-30-2008, 02:53 PM
I agree, I think if for the next challenge it should be something more general such as competitive 4v4 map for a tournament. This way more people would be inclined to enter.

Although it's kind of sad the state of this site, considering there was about 2 months to do this thing and I was the only person who bothered to enter. It just seems like most people on this site are over halo 3 for now. There hasn't really been much action on the map submitting front or reviewing recently...

Personally, I feel that an overhauling of some of the promoted staff for more interested members and including more of a focus on attracting new members would help the site become more active, but it's not really my place to say. I'm just disappointed/concerned with the lack of interest from the community. :(
Trust me, I am in full agreement. Part of the problem for this challenge being that most people didn't like the Template, due to its rough nature; which again, I am in full agreement.

The main problem is that starting in Mid-October, way too many games are coming out, and Halo 3 is getting choked out of the spotlight. Also, most of our community went with Fable 2, which of course doesn't have any bearing on our site. Not only that, but even before that time hit, we were seeing a lull in activity, mainly due to school for most people.

It doesn't have everything to do with time available either. There's also an increased pressure to make amazing maps. If your map doesn't have Geo-Merging and Interlocking, then it sucks. Many people don't have the patience or know-how to do all of that.

The next challenge(s) will hopefully get more activity. We have some planned for all of the now included games and they will be released soon.


As far as dedicated staff goes, it seems that people tend to be fickle in their dedication. It changes with the wind. One day we have a really dedicated member who can't wait to improve the site and get things going in the right direction, the next day they don't even visit the site anymore.
Sadly, we don't have the long term members on our staff for several reasons.....


Some don't show the responsibility to actually hold a position.
We can't tell the difference between people who will and won't stay for the long haul, and we've had the bad luck of picking more of the latter.
Some people have turned down positions because they don't have, or don't want to take the time that they know it will take to turn things around.


I'm out of things to say now, so I'll be done.

Thomas
10-31-2008, 04:45 AM
As far as dedicated staff goes, it seems that people tend to be fickle in their dedication. It changes with the wind. One day we have a really dedicated member who can't wait to improve the site and get things going in the right direction, the next day they don't even visit the site anymore.
Sadly, we don't have the long term members on our staff for several reasons.....
Ewie. I've been less active (but occasionally coming back and reading) because my 360 is still borked and I don't have the money to buy any new games and my dad lost the paperwork to get it returned to BestBuy. No 360 = sad, sad Thomas.

I have an idea for what the next month's challenge will be, but I've kept it to myself for a while now...

Also, I'm working on a very, very slow way to attract new members but it's indirect. I've been thinking about advertisements for a while now, but still haven't gotten what I've requested from the GFX Team. :(

Ganye
10-31-2008, 08:19 AM
Ewie. I've been less active (but occasionally coming back and reading) because my 360 is still borked and I don't have the money to buy any new games and my dad lost the paperwork to get it returned to BestBuy. No 360 = sad, sad Thomas.

I have an idea for what the next month's challenge will be, but I've kept it to myself for a while now...

Also, I'm working on a very, very slow way to attract new members but it's indirect. I've been thinking about advertisements for a while now, but still haven't gotten what I've requested from the GFX Team. :(

PM me pl0x?

Null Parameter
10-31-2008, 09:15 AM
I have an idea for what the next month's challenge will be, but I've kept it to myself for a while now...
If you had been keeping up on the site, you'd know that we had already decided next month's challenges :p

Thomas
10-31-2008, 03:05 PM
If you had been keeping up on the site, you'd know that we had already decided next month's challenges :p
I know, but until a challenge is posted it's not 100% official so I can bring a new idea to the platter. ;)