View Full Version : Legalization of Marijuana? Your views...
Ribbo MKII
10-18-2009, 02:44 PM
Here's an intresting topic to discuss, do you think Marijuana should be legalized or still be illegal? Don't worry there is no right or wrong answer, and all views will be respected, give examples why also ECT.
I'm not sure whether it should be legalized, although it has been labeled from class C to a class B drug, I have friends even relatives who take the drug (no not my Jamaican side of the family) and they seem not to be affected, but I have heard the dangers of it and I must say it scared the shit out of me. Personally I don't take it and never intend to, but I do use it as inspiration for my artwork.
You're views?
Zackj191
10-18-2009, 03:22 PM
It should be. Plain and simple.
Marijuana is the number 1 cash crop in the USA, while illegal. If made legal, the government could tax it and make over 10 billion dollars according to a 2006 survey. Legalizing weed will also take the mystique out of smoking it, therefor reducing the curiosity to try it.
...and they seem not to be affected, but I have heard the dangers of it and I must say it scared the shit out of me...
What dangers of it? Marijuana has been proven multiple times to have no consequences from smoking it. The only thing that may occur is irritation of the throat and lungs for a short period after smoking it. No long term effects or anything life threatening or dangerous exist. The only way that anything bad happens is if it is laced with something. That being said, if it were legal you could buy it from a store and be 100% sure it ISN'T laced with something.
Miraj
10-18-2009, 03:27 PM
Legalized.
When something is made illegal, it will always be smuggled. For example, when alcohol prohibition laws were created, bootleggers took the advantage to make some business. Same way, when the government prohibits the use of marijuana, they never really "stop" the people of using it. People find their ways.
There are some great advantages and disadvantages of marijuana. Most people thing marijuana causes cancer, but it doesn't. In fact, the average deaths by marijuana each year is zero, proving that tobacco is even more harmful. However, having marijuana mixed with another can be harmful. Marijuana is famous for getting a "high" feeling, which is used to overcome depression or stress. The only negative thing about marijuana is controlling the quantity you take. Use of marijuana has to be limited.
The government can help the economy by legalizing marijuana and placing a high tax on it. The tax will keep some people from using it, and for that people that do buy it, they contribute to the United States economy.
Zackj191
10-18-2009, 03:33 PM
Miraj, why would we need to control the amount people take? It is physically impossible to die from smoking too much unless you smoke your entire body weight in under an hours, which is not possible.
Miraj
10-18-2009, 03:48 PM
Miraj, why would we need to control the amount people take? It is physically impossible to die from smoking too much unless you smoke your entire body weight in under an hours, which is not possible.
I never said government should control the amount people take. I said people have to understand and have the discipline to govern that rule themselves.
It's not about dying from smoking a lot, it's about how people don't think right when they are too high. They'll make bad decisions.
YouTube - Family Guy - Bag Of Weed
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meltyourtv
10-18-2009, 04:39 PM
YouTube - Family Guy - Bag Of Weed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgcaUsnpToQ)
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*Seconds*
DimmestBread
10-18-2009, 04:43 PM
Legalize it and put a like 50 dollar tax on it. Also, tax all other drugs a ridiculous amount. may as well take advantage of peoples addiction.
Legalize it and put a like 50 dollar tax on it. Also, tax all other drugs a ridiculous amount. may as well take advantage of peoples addiction.
Yeah, because that's not evil or corrupt at all. People who smoke weed are not bad people...
mista tipsta
10-18-2009, 04:52 PM
i too agree that it should go ahead and be legalized. /reallynothingtobackmeup
aMoeba
10-18-2009, 04:54 PM
I'd never smoke it, but it should be legalized. There's nothing harmful about it. My only concern is that it will lay the foundation to legalizing actual harmful drugs, but only time will tell.
DimmestBread
10-18-2009, 05:02 PM
Yeah, because that's not evil or corrupt at all. People who smoke weed are not bad people...
They are until its legalized or they are using for medical purposes prescribed by a doctor because its illegal. Doing illegal stuff is bad.
anyway, I have friends who smoke weed so I don't really care.
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to above post, doesn't it make your judgement pretty poopy for a little bit though?
EDIT: OK jaywalkers are bad. I would know because I've almost been hit by cars and it would have been my fault. I don't get were your going with the fine thing though. When did I ever talk about a fine?
They are until its legalized or they are using for medical purposes prescribed by a doctor because its illegal. Doing illegal stuff is bad.
anyway, I have friends who smoke weed so I don't really care.
Laws are not moral guidelines, they are rules. Breaking rules may be bad according to your morals, but just because something is illegal doesn't make it bad.
Following your logic of it being "bad" to break the law, why not fine people who jay walk a nice sum of oh 5000$? hell why not 50,000$? Who cares, they are horrible people anyway amitrite?
DimmestBread
10-18-2009, 05:05 PM
Laws are not moral guidelines, they are rules. Breaking rules may be bad according to your morals, but just because something is illegal doesn't make it bad.
I never said weed was bad. I said doing illegal stuff is bad. If weed was legal, it wouldn't be bad.
aMoeba
10-18-2009, 05:15 PM
to above post, doesn't it make your judgement pretty poopy for a little bit though?
... what?
... what?
I don't think he has a full understanding of what being high feels like.
Nulls Wife
10-18-2009, 05:21 PM
Miraj, why would we need to control the amount people take? It is physically impossible to die from smoking too much unless you smoke your entire body weight in under an hours, which is not possible.
Are you fing kidding me....You can kill other people by the stupid decision you make when high. The reason we have limits on Alcohol is because to control people making stupid dicisions that put other people lives at risk. Marijuana should have those same restrictions.
Where is Denominator when you need him, he would show all of you that you are stupid.
Besides this (http://www.xforgery.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1504) has already been debated!!
aMoeba
10-18-2009, 05:47 PM
Are you fing kidding me....You can kill other people by the stupid decision you make when high. The reason we have limits on Alcohol is because to control people making stupid dicisions that put other people lives at risk. Marijuana should have those same restrictions.
Of course marijuana has to have restrictions, but does your usage of restrictions imply the premise that it is legal, or illegal? The reason so many are going apeshit with marijuana's legalization is because its far less harmful then any legal drug we currently have available that isn't over the counter. I've witnessed many people get high off of marijuana, and if anything, they're more responsive. Take three people that are exactly the same as each other (for metaphorical purposes), make them all drive. Give one alcohol, give one marijuana, and leave the last as the control. You'll find that marijuana is probably no worse for driving then texting at the wheel.
Where is Denominator when you need him, he would show all of you that you are stupid.
Thanks.
http://www.alternet.org/drugreporter/60959/
http://www.edubook.com/why-marijuana-should-be-legal/8254/
http://media.www.tcudailyskiff.com/media/storage/paper792/news/2009/09/30/News/Speaker.Marijuana.Should.Be.Legalized-3787710.shtml
PsychoBucket
10-18-2009, 05:54 PM
You'll find that marijuana is probably no worse for driving then texting at the wheel.
Wow - :facepalm:
DimmestBread
10-18-2009, 05:57 PM
... what?
poopy means bad. I meant to say doesn't smoking weed make your judgement bad for a little bit. I had to poop really bad though so I ended up saying poopy.
I refer to a kid in my gym class who was smoking weed and tried to walk in the lockers and walked into the door that was closed. He then went to walk to his locker and tripped over a bench. Unless he is just an idiot, his judgement on were things were was bad.
aMoeba
10-18-2009, 06:09 PM
Wow - :facepalm:
Wow what? Failure to realize that you can't properly address a point? I might as well do the same.
:facepalm:
But, I won't. Why is it that people can drive better or even play Halo better when they're high? What about playing Halo while texting? How detrimental is that in gameplay compared to being high? Laws are being established against texting at the wheel because it has killed many people.
Texting while driving:
http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2007/12/man_texting_whi.html
http://wcbstv.com/technology/texting.and.driving.2.1218904.html
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/bal-md.texting27sep27,0,4932790.story
High while driving:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2008/09/18/edm-conviction.html
Which is pretty much all I could find.
http://www.selectsmart.com/DISCUSS/read.php?16,693724
@Dimmest, the fine serves as an equivalent to the tax as weed.
DimmestBread
10-18-2009, 06:17 PM
@Dimmest, the fine serves as an equivalent to the tax as weed.
taxes are different from fines though. I'll find a better example that will go against what I said (not sure why I would do that, but I kind of said it wrong and with no back up) i'll get back to you.
PsychoBucket
10-18-2009, 06:41 PM
Wow what? Failure to realize that you can't properly address a point? I might as well do the same.
I did address a point. I just did not explain it because I felt that the majority would understand just by reading your statement.
If you really want me to explain - Your statement goes against what you are trying to say. Many people die every year because people are texting and driving at the same time.
You posted those links so I am guessing that you just worded that statement very badly. From your statement it seems like you are saying that they are equal. From your links you are saying that texting is worse.
aMoeba
10-18-2009, 06:54 PM
I don't see how there's a wording issue - if you'd like me to rephrase the exact same sentence in an inverse manner, I will.
"You'll find that marijuana is probably no worse for driving then texting at the wheel."
You will find that marijuana is probably better to take while driving (or less dangerous) then texting at the wheel.
Nulls Wife
10-18-2009, 07:48 PM
Amoeba~ No one is going to read every one of your links word for word....you should probably make an argument, then defend your argument, then post the links as a source.
I sure hope you don't write a paper for english by just posting links :p
PsychoBucket
10-18-2009, 08:03 PM
I don't see how there's a wording issue - if you'd like me to rephrase the exact same sentence in an inverse manner, I will.
"You'll find that marijuana is probably no worse for driving then texting at the wheel."
You will find that marijuana is probably better to take while driving (or less dangerous) then texting at the wheel.
Well there is still a wording issue.
"You'll find that marijuana is probably no worse for driving then texting at the wheel." - That implies that you think think that they are the same and that you think driving and texting is not bad
"You will find that marijuana is probably better to take while driving (or less dangerous) then texting at the wheel" - This implies that texting is more dangerous.
You may not see it, but those statements do not mean the same thing.
aMoeba
10-18-2009, 08:05 PM
Amoeba~ No one is going to read every one of your links word for word....you should probably make an argument, then defend your argument, then post the links as a source.
That's literally exactly what I've done. I posted the links because I used them as sources of information.
But, as you can see from the site updates, much of my writing is links...
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