Is Halo an RPG?

[DeathsFriend22]

It's a role playing first person shooter game. A "role playing game" is a game in which you play a role in the storyline. I believe that the master chief is an important figure in that storyline, correct? therefore, it is both an RPG and an FPS.

[Kenny M]

Halo isnt a Role Playing Game sure your master cheif but your not in 3rd person view your in 1st person. which is a huge difference.

[Null Parameter]

Who says that RPGs need to be in Third Person? That is definitely not a requirement.

[Ganye]

Name one First-Person RPG.

[WoozyJoJo]

While most games are technically RPG's, that sort of logic really shouldn't count, because RPG's have become their own Genre. It's like calling Halo 3 an MMO just because it has Xbox Live.

[Null Parameter]

Name one First-Person RPG.

Hellgate: London (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellgate_london)

Has all of the same kind of ideas as other RPGs. Go out into the world, complete quests, kill random enemies, get loot, go back to town, sell loot, upgrade characters. All in First Person.

And also, many games like Oblivion and the other Elder Scrolls games can be played in First Person.

[Ganye]

Omg. Hellgate: London looked like a cool game, so I downloaded the Torrent. The file size is 6.66 GBs.

[DeathsFriend22]

Name one First-Person RPG.
that's easy.

Halo ;)

[Ganye]

Halo's a FPS, not an RPG. Just because it stands for Role-Playing Game doesn't mean that that's the only characteristic defining it.

[Thomas]

that's easy.

Halo ;)
What you're saying is you're playing the role of Master Chief in an epic battle... but if you were to call this an RPG then every game would be called an RPG because you're playing the role of a character to defeat evil. This would make the genre of RPG pointless, therefore Halo is a FPS - just a FPS.

RPG's go one step further above you playing the role as a character, you have to build up that character to defeat a main boss alongside many other mini-bosses. A FPS RPG would mean that you have to earn your weapons instead of picking them out of drop pods.

[DeathsFriend22]

no, not every game. RTS games are not considered RPGs. but the simple fact that you "play a role" as a character in a game immediately defines the game an RPG.

[Thomas]

no, not every game. RTS games are not considered RPGs. but the simple fact that you "play a role" as a character in a game immediately defines the game an RPG.

In an RTS, you're in a god-mode where you're commanding armies so technically you're in the role as their commander or general. Playing a role and role-playing are similar, yet different.

[DeathsFriend22]

In an RTS, you're in a god-mode where you're commanding armies so technically you're in the role as their commander or general. Playing a role and role-playing are similar, yet different.

But the fact that you're not a specific character in the plot is the crucial difference. Commanding them from a "god-mode" standpoint does not play a role in the overall storyline.

[Thomas]

So, what you're saying is there are only two genres of games: RTS and RPG?

And with that, RPG has third and first person. Only three genres with subdivisions included?

[DeathsFriend22]

correct.Unless i am forgetting something, which I doubt.

[CostlyAxis]

correct.Unless i am forgetting something, which I doubt.
Read the first line in that paragraph (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_3). Now read this on the RPG games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_game).

And like Connor said, stop ruining this thread.

[DeathsFriend22]

Read the first line in that paragraph (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_3). Now read this on the RPG games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_game).

And like Connor said, stop ruining this thread.

I read both. But i still have an argument to it.

A role-playing game (RPG; often roleplaying game) is a game in which the participants assume the roles of fictional characters and collaboratively create or follow stories.
This sounds a lot like a player taking the role of the master chief, does it not?

Participants determine the actions of their characters based on their characterization, and the actions succeed or fail according to a formal system of rules and guidelines. Within the rules, players can improvise freely; their choices shape the direction and outcome of the games.

Making choices to alter the outcome which succeed or fail based on formal rules in the game sounds a lot like picking up weapons and winning or losing due to weapon range, health points, shields percentage, and other factors determining the win or loss of a Halo firefight, correct?

The main purpose of a role-playing game is to have fun playing it.
Halo = made for gamers to have fun.

That makes role-playing games fundamentally different from board games, card games, sports and most other types of games.
Halo is not a card game, board game, or sport. It's a video game.

Role-playing games are more collaborative and social than competitive. A typical role-playing game unifies its participants to play as a group, instead of in competition.
halo unifies both the social and competitive aspects of gaming in its campaign and its multiplayer. The campaign can be competitive with its metagame scores but can also be just to blow up some aliens with your friends.

I could keep quoting your page, but I think I'll just wait for a reply here. As for the Halo page, an FPS can easily be considered a sub-division of the RPG genre.

[CostlyAxis]

Does the Master Chief develop new skills over the course of the campaign? No.

Are you living the life of the Master Chief and determining his future? No.

Did it say "fundamentally different" from the those types of games? Yes, did it mention not mentioning all types of games? Yes.

Halo 3 is a competitive game, do you perform tasks for say monetary value? No.

My point proven, your point eliminated.

[DeathsFriend22]

Does the Master Chief develop new skills over the course of the campaign? No.
No, but I believe that it says creates or follows a storyline.

Are you living the life of the Master Chief and determining his future? No.
living their life or determining their future is not necessary for an RPG. I'll once again point you to the "or follow a storyline" in that particular segment you gave me.

Did it say "fundamentally different" from the those types of games? Yes, did it mention not mentioning all types of games? Yes. Please, point out differences between RPGs and FPSs other than the 2 above. Not to mention that it was speaking in terms of the "fun factor" of the game, and how it usually isn't competitive.

Halo 3 is a competitive game, do you perform tasks for say monetary value? No.
you are confusing "competitive" with "repetitive" my friend.

Again, Halo can be both competitive and social. Do you really think that games like the Double EXP weekends are supposed to be competitive? What about customs? those are not meant for competitive play. Halo is for fun.

My point proven, your point eliminated.
Amazing. This one is like a blast from the past. I remember saying something almost exactly the same in an incredibly old argument with Thomas at the old site. He surprised me with more arguments that I had to parry.

Bold statements like this make you look dumb when the other person brings up the same points in his next post and uses them to beat whatever you threw at him. I learned it the hard way too. Don't feel bad. :)

[CostlyAxis]

I'm tired of this. You can't comprehend sentences. Go play Oblivion. Determine your character's future. Make friends and enemies. Play missions where there is more than one option (I should mention that killing enemies in a different order doesn't count). Roam around a map where if there is a wall, walk around it. Earn money for performing tasks, collect items if possible. Build up an inventory.

If you can do any of that in Halo 3, it might as well be an RPG.


Edit: You still didn't prove any of my points wrong, you just found a vague word to attack

[DeathsFriend22]

I found several words, and even sentences to attack. It collapsed your argument completely. You still don't seem to comprehend that "role playing" and "playing a role" is the same thing.

Ever played Fable? I know what yu're talking about. But it's just as much an RPG as Halo is. an you still failed to attack my points.

[CostlyAxis]

I want to know when in the Halo 3 campaign can you choose a different route to come to a different conclusion. All standard RPGs have that. (Not including an alternate route around an enemy)

I want to know if you have an inventory of some sort accessed by perhaps a menu? All standard RPGs have that.

I want to know if there are actual civilians not holding a gun in their hands. All standard RPGs have that.

I want to know if there are alternate endings to Halo 3. All standard RPGs have that.

I want to know if the Master Chief has a skill system where if you perform a certain task, that skill increases. All standard RPGs have that.

I want to know if there is actually anything of monetary value that you can obtain in Halo 3. All standard RPGs have that.

You still fail to counter my points, yet I've countered your points. All you're doing now is trying to attack me.


Edit: Before we completely destroy Kenny's thread, make one about this topic if needed.

[Ganye]

Making choices to alter the outcome which succeed or fail based on formal rules in the game sounds a lot like picking up weapons and winning or losing due to weapon range, health points, shields percentage, and other factors determining the win or loss of a Halo firefight, correct?
That logic fails. Seriously, Deathsfriend, you're making yourself look like an idiot. Just stop.

[Thomas]

I want to know when in the Halo 3 campaign can you choose a different route to come to a different conclusion. All standard RPGs have that.

Even though it's not helping matters, Bungie said themselves they've included alternate routes in campaign to come up behind your enemy.


I was going to see if I couldn't move specific posts over to a new thread and have a poll asking everyone what they think.

[Thomas]

Alright, there has been somewhat of a hot discussion betwen DeathsFirend and the rest of us to decide if Halo is an RPG or not.

This is easy, read the thread and then vote, yes or no.

[CostlyAxis]

No, Halo 3 isn't an RPG.


Even though it's not helping matters, Bungie said themselves they've included alternate routes in campaign to come up behind your enemy.


I was going to see if I couldn't move specific posts over to a new thread and have a poll asking everyone what they think.


Edit: For the thing you quoted of mine, I meant to mention that going around an enemy on a different route doesn't count, I meant changing the game's story.

[Kyyrbes]

In the form that RPG's are defined by in modern gaming, no, halo is not an RPG.

[TheGrimPeeper28]

FPS
A shooter game in first-person where you follow planned missions that may have alternate tasks and alternate paths you may take to complete the mission with the same outcome everytime.
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RPG
A game where you play the role of a fictional character that may follow different paths that may change the outcome of the story. They may buy from shops, collect items, and level up skills by defeating monsters. (most of the time) RPGs usually contain side missions which can be completed before or after you complete the main storyline.
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Those are my definitions of FPS and RPG games. Halo is obviously a FPS. While games such as Fable and Oblivion are RPGs. Notice the differences between these games and understand that Halo is a FPS.

[Shell]

FPS
A shooter game in first-person where you follow planned missions that may have alternate tasks and alternate paths you may take to complete the mission with the same outcome everytime.
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RPG
A game where you play the role of a fictional character that may follow different paths that may change the outcome of the story. They may buy from shops, collect items, and level up skills by defeating monsters. (most of the time) RPGs usually contain side missions which can be completed before or after you complete the main storyline.
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Those are my definitions of FPS and RPG games. Halo is obviously a FPS. While games such as Fable and Oblivion are RPGs. Notice the differences between these games and understand that Halo is a FPS.


QFT, and Death, you're making yourself look more retarded than you already are.

[DeathsFriend22]

oh, so it's personal attacks now? fine. because the common opinion is against me, I'll stop. But We'll have to agree to disagree. If you're too immature for even that then you are the retard ;)

[Kenny M]

no, not every game. RTS games are not considered RPGs. but the simple fact that you "play a role" as a character in a game immediately defines the game an RPG.



You play a role in all games.


That doesnt make it an RPG as Thomas said earlier, you need a second storyline mini bosses, building your character out, random mini quests, weapons you need to earn, and learning things along the way that helps you later in the game such as in puzzles or other things Halo doesnt have any of that. Wheres the mini bosses? Actually wheres a boss other then that ball guy.



Edit: In RPGs you can do almsot whatever you want almost no boundries at all.

In FPSs you have a boundry you cannot pass you can do whatever you want but your just stopping the story from progressing while in RPGs you can progress it either by doing a mini quest or talking to people.

[DeathsFriend22]

You play a role in all games.


That doesnt make it an RPG as Thomas said earlier, you need a second storyline mini bosses, building your character out, random mini quests, weapons you need to earn, and learning things along the way that helps you later in the game such as in puzzles or other things Halo doesnt have any of that. Wheres the mini bosses? Actually wheres a boss other then that ball guy.

Okay, so you still want to argue. I can deal with that :) .

storyline minibosses=Scarabs.

while you can't really build your character out, you can unlock armor ;) lolz.

random miniquests = skulls/terminals.

earned weapons=killing a brute chieftain for a grav hammer, etc.

Edit: In RPGs you can do almsot whatever you want almost no boundries at all.

In FPSs you have a boundry you cannot pass you can do whatever you want but your just stopping the story from progressing while in RPGs you can progress it either by doing a mini quest or talking to people.

You can't progress the storyline in an RPG with miniquests unless you're talking about having smaller missions as part of a larger one. If you mean fun little side stories, the terminals have that cut out for you :)

[CostlyAxis]

Okay, so you still want to argue. I can deal with that :) .

storyline minibosses=Scarabs.

while you can't really build your character out, you can unlock armor ;) lolz.

random miniquests = skulls/terminals.

earned weapons=killing a brute chieftain for a grav hammer, etc.
A Scarab isn't a mini boss. A mini boss has their own quest and requirements, like the Fighters Guild in Oblivion.

Unlocking armor isn't the same as going out and picking it up. You also can't freely change into it and armor in an RPG is unlocked by your overall level.

Skulls are just little easter eggs and so are the terminals. They do not affect the outcome of a game nor earn you anything of monetary value.

A gravity hammer an earned weapon? Do you get to keep it, and maintain its condition? Can you sell it? No.
You can't progress the storyline in an RPG with miniquests unless you're talking about having smaller missions as part of a larger one. If you mean fun little side stories, the terminals have that cut out for you :)
The terminals are easter eggs. They provide nothing towards the overall story nor develop anything further. Yet again, go play Oblivion and participate in a guild. That's a side quest. A mini quest is like talking to a person who asks a favor that you must go out and fulfill.

[DeathsFriend22]

A Scarab isn't a mini boss. A mini boss has their own quest and requirements, like the Fighters Guild in Oblivion.
When you fight a scarab, you must destroy its power core. Sounds like a requirement to me.

Unlocking armor isn't the same as going out and picking it up. You also can't freely change into it and armor in an RPG is unlocked by your overall level.
Not all of the time. Some RPGs allow you to change freely.

Skulls are just little easter eggs and so are the terminals. They do not affect the outcome of a game nor earn you anything of monetary value.
But the skulls can increase the difficulty of the game when activated.

A gravity hammer an earned weapon? Do you get to keep it, and maintain its condition? Can you sell it? No.
earning is not the same thing as maintaining or selling. Killing the brute that's trying to kill you with it and then picking it up sounds a lot lie earning it. And you can keep it through the rest of the level.

The terminals are easter eggs. They provide nothing towards the overall story nor develop anything further. Yet again, go play Oblivion and participate in a guild. That's a side quest. A mini quest is like talking to a person who asks a favor that you must go out and fulfill.

The Terminals develop your understanding of the Halo war, and why Master chief must be there fighting the Flood. It's a cool little history lesson :)

[CostlyAxis]

I have to spell things out for you don't I?
When you fight a scarab, you must destroy its power core. Sounds like a requirement to me.
Scarab = Really big weapon that you destroy. Mini Boss = Villain that has a history to go with it, and is well known by the inhabitants of the game. You can't just go fight the mini boss right away, you must first meet certain requirements such as completing certain quests.

Not all of the time. Some RPGs allow you to change freely.
How could you read that wrong? I was talking about Halo 3 where you can't freely change the armor you're wearing in-game. With an RPG, you can.

But the skulls can increase the difficulty of the game when activated.
Changing the difficulty means nothing to an RPG. I meant finding something such as a key that unlocks a sealed door that contains perhaps a secret quest or treasure.

earning is not the same thing as maintaining or selling. Killing the brute that's trying to kill you with it and then picking it up sounds a lot lie earning it. And you can keep it through the rest of the level.
Does it add your inventory that can you can access at any time? Can you repair the hammer with another item you have? Can you keep the item even after you finish that part of the game? No, no, and no.


The Terminals develop your understanding of the Halo war, and why Master chief must be there fighting the Flood. It's a cool little history lesson :)
Do the inhabitants of the game acknowledge it? Does it change how people react when you speak to them. I don't think you can even start up a conversation with the AI in Halo 3.

[Kenny M]

Costly I dont think they have Ai that you can talk to freely only ones that randomly speak nonsense about nothing.

[CostlyAxis]

Costly I dont think they have Ai that you can talk to freely only ones that randomly speak nonsense about nothing.
That's my point. The AI in Halo 3 just says random things that is sometimes triggered by something you just did, but doesn't have a lasting effect.

[DeathsFriend22]

I have to spell things out for you don't I?

Scarab = Really big weapon that you destroy. Mini Boss = Villain that has a history to go with it, and is well known by the inhabitants of the game. You can't just go fight the mini boss right away, you must first meet certain requirements such as completing certain quests.

The scarab does have a history to go with it, or at least history from past Halo games. you fight numerous scarabs throughout the series. In H2 you had to defeat all of the units on the scarab to defeat it. in H3 you have to blow up the power core. And as far as I know, the marines know what a scarab is. So it is in fact known by the inhabitants of the game.


How could you read that wrong? I was talking about Halo 3 where you can't freely change the armor you're wearing in-game. With an RPG, you can.

Doesn't matter. You can freely change your armor in the online play.


Changing the difficulty means nothing to an RPG. I meant finding something such as a key that unlocks a sealed door that contains perhaps a secret quest or treasure.

The skulls are miniquests to unlock in-game bonuses like armor or confetti exploding from grunt heads. RPGs have stupid little things like that too.

Does it add your inventory that can you can access at any time? Can you repair the hammer with another item you have? Can you keep the item even after you finish that part of the game? No, no, and no.

So? RPGs let you throw away items too, and they disappear after a certain time. Imagine it like arrows in an RPG, you fire all of them and then you have to get more, like another grav hammer.

Do the inhabitants of the game acknowledge it? Does it change how people react when you speak to them. I don't think you can even start up a conversation with the AI in Halo 3.
Cortana acknowledges a terminal on the last mission when you go to the last terminal and she says "what's that? How many of those have you found?"

[CostlyAxis]

I don't have the time nor the reason to be talking to a wall that can't speak valid information. You understand nothing about genres. Here is a list of RPG games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_role-playing_games_by_name). Look through it, and you will find elements that are in all of them.

The Halo series by Bungie is a FPS and for that reason, isn't included in that list. It's you against the world on what is considered an RPG or not.

Think about it.

[Ganye]

Just because you play the Role of a character does NOT make said game an RPG. There are numerous other defining characteristics for an RPG: Only minimal of which appear in Halo. Seriously, Death, we've all proven you wrong with unique answers: You're recycling the same bullshit from the first place.

[DeathsFriend22]

Just because you play the Role of a character does NOT make said game an RPG. There are numerous other defining characteristics for an RPG: Only minimal of which appear in Halo. Seriously, Death, we've all proven you wrong with unique answers: You're recycling the same bullshit from the first place.
^^^^ wow filter stopped working.

I don't see many unique answeres here. I see the same shit repeated over and over again, namely "there's certain qualities!" and "H4L0 15 N0t 4n Rp6!!!"
The fact of the matter is that all I have to do is recycle the same bullshit, and I keep getting the same recycled BS answers.

And costly, according to th poll, it's me vs 7 people. 4 of which aren't taking the time to argue the point. Last I checked, you, Kenny, and Ganye aren't the world. Sorry to hurt your ego.

[TheGrimPeeper28]

The scarab does have a history to go with it, or at least history from past Halo games. you fight numerous scarabs throughout the series. In H2 you had to defeat all of the units on the scarab to defeat it. in H3 you have to blow up the power core. And as far as I know, the marines know what a scarab is. So it is in fact known by the inhabitants of the game.
You can call it a mini boss, but it is just another part of the mission. Just because it is larger and harder to defeat than normal enemies doesn't mean it's a mini boss. Is a wraith a mini boss? No.
Doesn't matter. You can freely change your armor in the online play.
In-game was the key word there. Can you change the armor while playing other players in match? Do they have benefit except for looks? No and no.
The skulls are miniquests to unlock in-game bonuses like armor or confetti exploding from grunt heads. RPGs have stupid little things like that too.

The stupid things in RPGs are called easter eggs. They are obtained usually by doing miniquests or finding them somewhere. In a RPG its not considered a miniquest when you find an easter egg. So when you find a skull in a hidden tunnel do you find it somewhere or do a miniquest?
So? RPGs let you throw away items too, and they disappear after a certain time. Imagine it like arrows in an RPG, you fire all of them and then you have to get more, like another grav hammer.
So? You found an element in all shooters and are sometimes in RPGs. That doesn't make the game a RPG.
Cortana acknowledges a terminal on the last mission when you go to the last terminal and she says "what's that? How many of those have you found?"
It doesn't matter if Cortana acknowledges it. You found something that tells the history of the Halo wars. It is just like the skulls. You found an easter egg. Nearly every game has its easter eggs, but FPS easter eggs don't make them RPGs.

Please for the love of GOD. Don't reply to this because you are just finding some elements that are usually in all shooters that are related to RPGs to back up your arguement that Halo is an RPG. It is not. Deal with it.

Look I can argue too!!!!

[CostlyAxis]

^^^^ wow filter stopped working.

I don't see many unique answeres here. I see the same shit repeated over and over again, namely "there's certain qualities!" and "H4L0 15 N0t 4n Rp6!!!"
The fact of the matter is that all I have to do is recycle the same bullshit, and I keep getting the same recycled BS answers.

And costly, according to th poll, it's me vs 7 people. 4 of which aren't taking the time to argue the point. Last I checked, you, Kenny, and Ganye aren't the world. Sorry to hurt your ego.

Yet the rest of the Internet does not acknowledge Halo 3 as an RPG.

And for the answers, you haven't proven our points wrong. You just find some loop hole in my wording, but if I could find someone who can spell out every last word for you, you might get at least half of it.


Edit:
I'm going to give an example since telling you isn't working.

Okay, you know about our solar system, right? It has planets, moons, comets, a star... Within the last few years, Pluto was re categorized as a dwarf planet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarf_planet) | NASA information if needed (http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/planetaryfaq.html#Pluto). It doesn't qualify as a full planet because of its size, but meets all of the other requirements to be a planet. However, since it fails to meet this size requirement, Pluto is no longer considered a regular planet. It's in a different category, genre if speaking of games if you wish. You see that by missing even one requirement, the subject can no longer be considered in a certain category (genre). Halo 3 fails to meet all of the requirements to be an RPG, but meets all of the requirements to be a FPS.

If you deny this fact, you still think Pluto is a planet.

[DeathsFriend22]

Yet the rest of the Internet does not acknowledge Halo 3 as an RPG.

And for the answers, you haven't proven our points wrong. You just find some loop hole in my wording, but if I could find someone who can spell out every last word for you, you might get at least half of it.


Edit:
I'm going to give an example since telling you isn't working.

Okay, you know about our solar system, right? It has planets, moons, comets, a star... Within the last few years, Pluto was re categorized as a dwarf planet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarf_planet) | NASA information if needed (http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/planetaryfaq.html#Pluto). It doesn't qualify as a full planet because of its size, but meets all of the other requirements to be a planet. However, since it fails to meet this size requirement, Pluto is no longer considered a regular planet. It's in a different category, genre if speaking of games if you wish. You see that by missing even one requirement, the subject can no longer be considered in a certain category (genre). Halo 3 fails to meet all of the requirements to be an RPG, but meets all of the requirements to be a FPS.

If you deny this fact, you still think Pluto is a planet.

Okay. you win. Well done, my friend. :)

[CostlyAxis]

Okay. you win. Well done, my friend. :)
*Shakes hand*

I knew that reference would help me someday.

[DeathsFriend22]

*shakes back* heh. nice.

*turns to all civilians* Okay guys, wars over, it's safe to come out now!

[Shell]

*shakes back* heh. nice.

*turns to all civilians* Okay guys, wars over, it's safe to come out now!

The only Third-PSRPG I know of is Mass Effect.

[TheGrimPeeper28]

That just took a very odd and abrupt end......

[Defiance]

The ending just made this thread made of nothing but epic win =]

[Ganye]

The ending just made this thread made of nothing but epic fail =]

Fix't.

Rawwwwrrr.

[DeathsFriend22]

The only Third-PSRPG I know of is Mass Effect.

what about Metal gear? I'm pretty sure that meets the requirements :)

[TheGrimPeeper28]

I don't know about MGS. It has a bit of RPG elements, but I wouldn't call it an RPG.

[DeathsFriend22]

Then how about Devil may Cry?

[Thomas]

Legend of Zelda is a third person RPG. ;)

[WoozyJoJo]

I wouldn't consider Metal Gear Solid to be an RPG.

Now that I think about it, I don't know what I'd classify Metal Gear as.
I guess just shooter.

It's got a couple RPG elements, but it's not an RPG.

[CostlyAxis]

I wouldn't consider Metal Gear Solid to be an RPG.

Now that I think about it, I don't know what I'd classify Metal Gear as.
I guess just shooter.

It's got a couple RPG elements, but it's not an RPG.
GameFAQs calls it an Action Adventure game (http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps3/data/926596.html).

[WoozyJoJo]

GameFAQs calls it an Action Adventure game (http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps3/data/926596.html).

Ah. I totally forgot about that genre, because in all honesty most games in the genre suck.

[/offtopic]

[Kenny M]

Arent most games Action Adventure? I mean seriously Barbie has to find 7 princesses and rides horses. There you got yah got Horse action and an adventure. Its too common of a genre. I think they need new genres such as


Orgasmic, Gotta love it, Sucks mah bawls, and my favorite Kenny Sextastic!

[DeathsFriend22]

Legend of Zelda is a third person RPG. ;)

So is Kingdom Hearts.

[TheGrimPeeper28]

Orgasmic, Gotta love it, Sucks mah bawls, and my favorite Kenny Sextastic!
Kenny right now for me yours says "Kenny sex, pure lust."

But seriously Death just look at the games genre to see what the genre is. The developers made it that genre its that genre. They sometimes put different elements from different genres in there, but that doesn't make it those genres.

[Oblivions TNT]

Name one First-Person RPG.

Im a little late on this one but Ganye im am seriously insulted...you forgot Oblivion (not to mention the rest of the Elder Scrolls). sadface :(

[Ganye]

I never played Oblivion OR Elder Scrolls.

[CostlyAxis]

I never played Oblivion OR Elder Scrolls.

:eek: What?!?!

[Ganye]

Never got around to buying it. Whenever I had the money I got something different (Like BF: Bad Company.

[CostlyAxis]

Never got around to buying it. Whenever I had the money I got something different (Like BF: Bad Company.
You're missing out on the one of the greatest games ever. I spent over 400 hours on that game and still didn't run out of things to do, and then I got the PC version and that added several more hundreds of hours thanks to mods.

[WoozyJoJo]

I spent over 400 hours
Hooollly ****!

[CostlyAxis]

Hooollly ****!
The game consistently crashes after that point on the console versions.

[TheGrimPeeper28]

I would get the PC version, but I never saw the point. Even though it has mods it just never really got to me because I eventually got bored with it because I could automatically win the game on the console version by getting into the Mages guild then enchant my armor to make me permanently invisible...

[CostlyAxis]

I would get the PC version, but I never saw the point. Even though it has mods it just never really got to me because I eventually got bored with it because I could automatically win the game on the console version by getting into the Mages guild then enchant my armor to make me permanently invisible...
But you can make your own mods too.

[TheGrimPeeper28]

o rly? That's cool. I might go for the PC version eventually when I have the money. I'm currently holding on to my cash for the iPhone 3G

[DarkDragon]

extremely sorry if this is already posted.well, to me a RPG is a point based game, such as final fantasy, of lost odyssey, since those specifacly know as RPG games mostly use point-stats, halo weapons are based on different groups

Sniping/Headshot
Sniper, BR, Magnum ETC.
basically weapons for which you want headshots

Automatic:
AR,Plasma-rifle,SMG,Spiker, ETC.
Weapons which fire continuesly while holding the trigger button.

Close-Range
Shotgun,Plasma-Pistol (its aim is very bad for longer ranges), sword,gravhammer
Weapons which are ususally instant-kill, but you can only use them on a extremely close enemie

Explosive:
Rockets,Fuel rod gun, Brute shot ETC.

im sorry if i missed somthing

also, halo 3 is based on tactics, while RPGs are based on points

if you wish to see what H3 would be like as a RPG, go to Halo3rpg.com and sign up, if you want to ask me somthing there, my username is Darkdragon on it

[xInfamous2x]

halo is definatly an fps.. death your weetarded.

It's a role playing first person shooter game. A "role playing game" is a game in which you play a role in the storyline. I believe that the master chief is an important figure in that storyline, correct? therefore, it is both an RPG and an FPS.
i dunno if anybody said this before.. but thats definatly not what role playing stands for..
yes there usually is a large role in character play but role playing's definition states that the game's play is based on variables usually decided by the roll of a dice, however newer technology makes the variables through random number selction.

the only RPG aspect i can see in the game would be the updated beating down feature where health bases of the person whose beat down actually counts.
other then this.. certain mini games do resemble a minigame. such as my oblivion remake :) lolololol advertisement.

[DeathsFriend22]

um in case you haven't noticed this argument ended on page 5...

[xInfamous2x]

lol i didnt notice. My B :)

...iLazy

[DarkDragon]

um in case you haven't noticed this argument ended on page 5...

ah man... i took 15 minuetes writing that...

[Jimbodawg]

I can say that most RPGs have experience elements, in which you must gain it to increase your skills and level. Halo 3's online multiplayer has this feature.
Also, in most RPGs that use levels, you'll be matched up with enemies either your level or higher most of the time, unless you're revisiting an old location. Halo 3's matchmaking system pairs you up with allies at a close skill range along with enemies.

I cannot say that Halo 3 is an RPG, whilst I also cannot say it isn't. It really depends on how you define an RPG. Halo 3 does contain RPG elements that add to the gameplay, and give it a sense of accomplishment. You feel good after winning a match, but don't you feel better after winning a match and then increasing your rank? I most certainly do.

Onto the fact where Halo 3 is an action/adventure game. The genre most games are given are based soley on the campaign or story mode. Multiplayer is commonly seen as an extra to games, even to major critics. To us, it's the main focus, seeing as we spend more time on there, and it's far more competitive. I enjoyed Halo 3's campaign, but have spent hardly a fraction of the time on it compared to Multiplayer.
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If you would want to clasify Halo 3 as a RPG, you should chose a sub-genre for it. There's fantasy, sci-fi, MMO, turned base, JRPGs, and many more.

This whole topic is opinionative, and no one can be proven wrong, nor right.

[wiggums]

halo is a first person shooter, rpg's have levels, and upgrades, and stats. halo does not. first person shooters are where you look out of his eyes, and there are no stats

[Thomas]

um in case you haven't noticed this argument ended on page 5...
This thread is now closed, there is no need to continue on with this argument, Halo is not an RPG.