View Full Version : [Community Question] Halo 3 Map Forum Structure
Null Parameter
03-02-2009, 08:59 PM
The prior vote was here, but some people didn't vote for forum structure and we have far more members now to vote.
Again, here are the options........
Forum Structure
You will find examples of how the forums will be structured and what thread paths will look like. Here are some examples from the current setup.
Current Forum Structure (bolded forums are visible from the Main Forum Page)
Halo 3 Maps
Non-DLC
MLG
Remakes
Infection
Mini-Game
Aesthetic
Heroic DLC
MLG
Remakes
Infection
Mini-Game
Aesthetic
Legendary DLC
MLG
Remakes
Infection
Mini-Game
Aesthetic
Ambushed Thread Path
Halo 3 Maps > Legendary DLC > Infection > Ambushed (http://www.xforgery.com/forum/showthread.php?t=474)
Option A - One Forum
This is where there is only a single forum for all maps. Instead of being separated into different forums based on the Category of map, they are instead given a Prefix ([Infection], [Aesthetic], etc..) to signify which category they are in.
Forum Structure
Halo 3 Maps
Example Thread Path
Halo 3 Maps > [Infection] Ambushed
Option B - Two Forums - Prefix Subcategories
This will provide separate forums for distinguishing between Casual and Competitive Maps. But then, any sub-categories of these two sections will be done by using Prefixes ([Infection], [Aesthetic], etc...).
Forum Structure (Naming may change)
Halo 3 Maps
Competitive
Casual
Thread Path
Halo 3 Maps > Casual > [Infection] Ambushed
Option C - Two Forums - Forum Subcategories**
This will show two separate forums on the Main Forum Page, but when going into each section, there are additional Sub-forums for each Category.
Forum Structure (Naming may change)
Halo 3 Maps
Competitive
MLG
Casual
Infection
Aesthetic
Mini-Game
Racing
Thread Path
Halo 3 Maps > Casual > Infection > Ambushed
Option D - Multiple Forums - Compact**
This will provide user with a fair amount of options, right from the Main Forum Page. Almost all categories will be visible instantly.
Forum Structure (Naming may change)
Halo 3 Maps
Competitive
MLG
Infection
Aesthetic
Mini-Game
Racing
Remakes
Thread Path
Halo 3 Maps > Infection > Ambushed
Option E - Multiple Forums - Full**
This will give the user the most available options for map separation, instantly from the Main Forum Page. All Categories are instantly visible.
Forum Structure (Naming may change)
Halo 3 Maps
Competitive
MLG
Infection
Aesthetic
Mini-Game
Racing
Remakes
Thread Path
Halo 3 Maps > Infection > Ambushed
Option F - Change Nothing
Want to be stubborn? Like what we have now? Then choose this, and we can go on our mary way.
Forum Structure
Halo 3 Maps
Non-DLC
MLG
Remakes
Infection
Mini-Game
Aesthetic
Heroic DLC
MLG
Remakes
Infection
Mini-Game
Aesthetic
Legendary DLC
MLG
Remakes
Infection
Mini-Game
Aesthetic
Thread Path
Halo 3 Maps > Legendary DLC > Infection > Ambushed
** These Forum Structures could instead use a Prefix to denote what Map Pack the map is from. For instance, the thread path would look like this for Option C: Halo 3 Maps > Casual > Infection > [Legendary DLC] Ambushed
CostlyAxis
03-02-2009, 09:04 PM
I voted for Option C the first time, and I plan to again. However, just to make sure you didn't scramble the options, I did make sure I voted for my real choice. I still prefer the organization of Option C since it covers the sheer basics without omitting any either.
HomerSPC
03-02-2009, 09:11 PM
I like D. It makes the right choices of maps and it can still differentiate from one map to the next. Possibly add in a DLC or Non-DLC tag.
mista tipsta
03-03-2009, 10:43 AM
I personally like E, its the closes to what i would like to see. I feel that instead of a "Competitive" forum it should be called Recreational. If this were to happen i think that Infection should be moved there.
When may these changes be put in to place?
GodlyPerfection
03-03-2009, 01:37 PM
I like the idea of changing "Competitive" to "Recreational". This is where we could hide MLG and all the Standard Gametypes. Then in Casual we can have the Mini Games section and the Aesthetics section. I think that all the default and standard gametypes and standard maps that cover all gametypes go in recreational with prefixes. But if your map can cover all sorts of different things like Dynamo can... then it goes in Casual. The prefixes are in [].
Halo 3 Maps
Recreational [All Defaults (These are the maps like the default maps, they cover all the default gametypes... Slayer, CTF, Assault, etc.), Standard Gametypes; IE Conquest, Squads, Medball, SnipeFlag, Infection -the standardized one-, etc.]
MLG
Casual [Racing, Puzzle]
Mini Game
Aesthetic
Recreational denotes that they are pretty standard amongst the community... Casual denotes that there is something very unique about it... hence the puzzles and races and mini games and aesthetics are all casual. Infection needs to be standardized, and it pretty much is. It's a popular standard so it should be in recreational. People will get used to the structure... and this way we are also not so cluttered in the amount of forums we have. And I can still search by gametypes that I care about. Also sometimes I just want a map that is like High Ground or Side Longest that covers all of the default gametypes.
Null Parameter
03-03-2009, 03:22 PM
I like the idea of changing "Competitive" to "Recreational". This is where we could hide MLG and all the Standard Gametypes. Then in Casual we can have the Mini Games section and the Aesthetics section. I think that all the default and standard gametypes and standard maps that cover all gametypes go in recreational with prefixes. But if your map can cover all sorts of different things like Dynamo can... then it goes in Casual. The prefixes are in [].
Halo 3 Maps
Recreational [All Defaults (These are the maps like the default maps, they cover all the default gametypes... Slayer, CTF, Assault, etc.), Standard Gametypes; IE Conquest, Squads, Medball, SnipeFlag, Infection -the standardized one-, etc.]
MLG
Casual [Racing, Puzzle]
Mini Game
Aesthetic
Recreational denotes that they are pretty standard amongst the community... Casual denotes that there is something very unique about it... hence the puzzles and races and mini games and aesthetics are all casual. Infection needs to be standardized, and it pretty much is. It's a popular standard so it should be in recreational. People will get used to the structure... and this way we are also not so cluttered in the amount of forums we have. And I can still search by gametypes that I care about. Also sometimes I just want a map that is like High Ground or Side Longest that covers all of the default gametypes.
So, basically you want Option C, just with a rename (even though I said that naming wasn't final).
GodlyPerfection
03-03-2009, 03:43 PM
Yeah pretty much... I was going to mention that part too... I swear... lol I haven't voted yet... but I will vote for C now... but yeah... pretty much... so are we going to do a seperate vote for categories?
Ja Red is Ninja
03-03-2009, 09:46 PM
I'm really digging C. Seems more simple. I don't like everything so split up.
Null Parameter
03-03-2009, 11:55 PM
I would really like to get a lot of votes in this quickly, so we can get it all figured out before a large influx of Mythic Maps. So, please make sure to vote!
mista tipsta
03-04-2009, 09:28 AM
After further thinkage i feel that there should NOT be a Remake thread. A remade map could fit into any other thread.
GodlyPerfection
03-04-2009, 09:31 AM
We will be discussing categories later on... but I do think we should have a remake forum... but not just for halo remakes, but every game remakes. But the remakes would go next to MLG in the Recreational zone...
Vinyl Hippo
03-04-2009, 04:32 PM
** These Forum Structures could instead use a Prefix to denote what Map Pack the map is from. For instance, the thread path would look like this for Option C: Halo 3 Maps > Casual > Infection > [Legendary DLC] Ambushed
Option C puts everything in one place so I will be voting Option C with the Pre-DLC, Heroic DLC in front of the map if possible
MNM1245
03-04-2009, 05:54 PM
I wouldn't mind havng a section for just Sandbox and Foundry(?) now that I'm thinking about it because there are tons of new members joining and with new maps there are sure to be a wave of new maps coming soon.
And then make a section for the rest of the maps and then have prefixes in there? I don't really know about this part but I'm sure you could figure it out but I think Sandbox and Foundry really should have there on section with prefixes
Scope
03-04-2009, 06:43 PM
I voted for C because I like the idea of having 2 main categories with those sub-categories. Even though competitive has fewer sub categories, it will still contain many maps because the majority of maps are made for that.
PsychoBucket
03-04-2009, 10:36 PM
I like A and E. I like A because it would sort everything by date, so you could check for new comments or new maps (they would be at the top). Then you would use the map search if you wanted something specific.
I like OptionE because it doesn't have any opinionated titles. Yes, Recreational is a little bit better then casual, but it is still opinionated. I guess you could say OptionE is a call it what it is option.
I like OptionA better but I don't think it has a chance of winning. I don't think enough people realize the point of OptionA is to emphasize and rely on the map search to sort the maps anyway you want.
GodlyPerfection
03-05-2009, 10:35 AM
That's true... some of us just want to browse sometimes... and I feel that it's much easier to browse with things pre sorted... and most people won't be using the search for a bit until it is emphasized more...
Ja Red is Ninja
03-05-2009, 10:59 AM
I still am sticking to C though. I just don't like everything so spread out that there is nothing in one and there is like a bajillion and a half in the next one.
Null Parameter
03-05-2009, 04:46 PM
I'm going to close out this poll tonight, so if you want to get your vote in, do so now.
Right now it looks like C is going to take it (although that could change), so now would be a good time to start suggesting Naming and Categories. Feel free to do so right here.
PsychoBucket
03-05-2009, 06:08 PM
Hmmm arn't we forgetting competitve maps that are not MLG in OptionC. You might want to add something for that.
Null Parameter
03-05-2009, 06:10 PM
They go right into the actual Competitive Section, just like normal maps go right underneath the Map Packs right now.
Denominator
03-05-2009, 07:22 PM
Anyone else find the trend of what the people in charge of reviews voted for interesting?
Null Parameter
03-05-2009, 08:05 PM
Anyone else find the trend of what the people in charge of reviews voted for interesting?
You mean the fact that you and Morphine both voted for A?
Technically I was in charge of reviews for just as long as either of you two, and I voted otherwise. And other members of the review team also voted differently.
On a different note, I think we need good names for Competitive and Casual.
I know AZN recommended Competitive == Recreational, but that just doesn't sound right to me. I think Casual would sound better for Recreational.
Thomas
03-06-2009, 04:55 AM
You mean the fact that you and Morphine both voted for A?
Technically I was in charge of reviews for just as long as either of you two, and I voted otherwise. And other members of the review team also voted differently.
I saw that they voted for A and then thought, "Why would they want such a clusterfuck of maps?"
I think Casual would sound better for Recreational.
Ditto.
Also, we're probably going to be locking this one up this weekend and re-arranging things, so if you don't like option C... GO VOTE NOW! (unless you have)
PsychoBucket
03-06-2009, 09:58 AM
They go right into the actual Competitive Section, just like normal maps go right underneath the Map Packs right now.
I don't like that. Everything has a sub-forum except for one type? That will just make it look sloppy.
Anyway I don't care if C wins anymore (except what I said above). I just checked out the map search on the beta, and it is so Cipe that I'm probably not going to use the normal forum. I dont even think we need it. Actually the most innovative thing we could do would probably be just using the map search (no regular forum).
Null Parameter
03-06-2009, 10:08 AM
I don't like that. Everything has a sub-forum except for one type? That will just make it look sloppy.
Anyway I don't care if C wins anymore (except what I said above). I just checked out the map search on the beta, and it is so Cipe that I'm probably not going to use the normal forum. I dont even think we need it. Actually that would probably be the most innovative thing we could do.
I can understand what you are getting at, then maybe we do want to make a subsection for those other "standard" maps. Thoughts anybody?
I completely agree that we don't need the forums anymore, but in the last vote, over half of the votes were to keep the forums.
Morphine
03-06-2009, 10:12 AM
I saw that they voted for A and then thought, "Why would they want such a clusterfuck of maps?"
I think it would just encourage others to use the map search, selecting a subcategory would be no different than sorting the maps by one prefix.
I'm fine with choice C but I think we need more categories under casual like puzzle maps and maybe switches...
PsychoBucket
03-06-2009, 10:26 AM
I completely agree that we don't need the forums anymore, but in the last vote, over half of the votes were to keep the forums.
Well how many people knew how Cipe the map search was going to be? The Beta one had one search cagetory, the regular one was not anywhere near as good as the beta one now, at it still only lost by one vote. I think when the map search goes out of the beta (to the normal forum), you should wait a month and then have that vote again.
Morphine
03-06-2009, 10:34 AM
Well how many people knew how Cipe the map search was going to be? The Beta one had one search cagetory, the regular one was not anywhere near as good as the beta one now, at it still only lost by one vote. I think when the map search goes out of the beta (to the normal forum), you should wait a month and then have that vote again.
I agree to a point, but I don't think they want to change the map structure now and then again in a month.
PsychoBucket
03-06-2009, 10:38 AM
They wouldn't change the structure. They would just hide the forum.
Null Parameter
03-06-2009, 10:55 AM
I think it would just encourage others to use the map search, selecting a subcategory would be no different than sorting the maps by one prefix.I don't think that encouraging people to use the map search by overwhelming them in the forums is the right approach......
I'm fine with choice C but I think we need more categories under casual like puzzle maps and maybe switches...
Yep, there's plenty of room for adding more categories.
Here's the list I had planned thus far.........
Infection
Aesthetic
Mini-Game
Racing
Puzzle
Switches
Any more you can think of?
Well how many people knew how Cipe the map search was going to be? The Beta one had one search cagetory, the regular one was not anywhere near as good as the beta one now, at it still only lost by one vote. I think when the map search goes out of the beta (to the normal forum), you should wait a month and then have that vote again.
That is true. We can definitely re-hold the vote later, because it is easy to make the forums invisible, but since we are going to have the forums right now, we still need to get them organized now.
Here, I'll make a possible outline:
Competitive
Default (Bad name, but for all of the "Regular" maps)
MLG
Standard Gametypes
Recreational
Infection
Aesthetic
Mini-Games
Racing
Puzzles
Switches
PsychoBucket
03-06-2009, 11:03 AM
Here, I'll make a possible outline:
Competitive
Default (Bad name, but for all of the "Regular" maps)
MLG
Standard Gametypes
Recreational
Infection
Aesthetic
Mini-Games
Racing
Puzzles
Switches
I'm confused. Dont gametypes have their own forum? + Do all standard gametypes have to be competitive?
Null Parameter
03-06-2009, 11:09 AM
I'm confused. Dont gametypes have their own forum? + Do all standard gametypes have to be competitive?
That's actually what I was just discussing with AZN. I just threw that together in a minute without thinking. It would probably be something more like this actually:
Competitive
Default (Bad name, but for all of the "Regular" maps)
MLG
Recreational
Infection
Aesthetic
Mini-Games
Racing
Puzzles
Switches
Standard Gametype Maps (Conquest, MedBall, whatever is standardized)
PsychoBucket
03-06-2009, 11:15 AM
That's actually what I was just discussing with AZN. I just threw that together in a minute without thinking. It would probably be something more like this actually:
Competitive
Default (Bad name, but for all of the "Regular" maps)
MLG
Recreational
Infection
Aesthetic
Mini-Games
Racing
Puzzles
Switches
Standard Gametype Maps (Conquest, MedBall, whatever is standardized)
ok how about this
Full-Purpose Maps
Standard
MLG
Remakes
Single/Limited-Purpose Maps
Infection
Aesthetic
Mini-Games
Racing
Puzzles
Switches
Standard Gametype Maps (Conquest, MedBall, whatever is standardized)
This is basically the same thing, but I think the names are a little less opinionated. I do see some potential problems though. Any good "standard map" (or whatever you want call them), will be made to to support all gametypes (full-purpose). It is just lazy not to, but I can see people doing that. Another thing is remakes. Most remakes would fall under full-purpose, but then there are maps like my Mario 2d map. Maybe a remake mini-game category? Or just put them into the regular mini-game category.
Null Parameter
03-06-2009, 11:30 AM
I understand the point of the names, but I'm not a big fan of them. I'm sure there has to be some set of names that will work, but "Full Purpose" just doesn't tell me anything about the maps, unless I know the definition beforehand. We want them to be self-explanatory. Also, "Limited Purpose" just sounds so demeaning to the maps.
I forgot about Remakes. We could do it one of two ways, either have it under the second category and let it be the exception to the rule, where some competitive maps could go there anyway. Or Remakes wouldn't get their own forum and they would just go into the corresponding forum they normally would if they weren't a remake. Technically I could still add a tag that would allow us to search for them in the map search.
Morphine
03-06-2009, 11:31 AM
ok how about this
Full-Purpose Maps
Standard
MLG
Remakes
Single/Limited-Purpose Maps
Infection
Aesthetic
Mini-Games
Racing
Puzzles
Switches
Standard Gametype Maps (Conquest, MedBall, whatever is standardized)
This is basically the same thing, but I think the names are a little less opinionated. I do see some potential problems though. Any good "standard map" (or whatever you want call them), will be made to to support all gametypes (full-purpose). It is just lazy not to, but I can see people doing that. Another thing is remakes. Most remakes would fall under full-purpose, but then there are maps like my Mario 2d map. Maybe a remake mini-game category? Or just put them into the regular mini-game category.
There is no reason to have a remake category. If you think I'm wrong please provide an example of a remake that doesn't fit into any of the other categories. Even if you think you need this category it should not be placed solely in full purpose maps, seeing as any type of map can be remade.
Null Parameter
03-06-2009, 11:34 AM
There is no reason to have a remake category. If you think I'm wrong please provide an example of a remake that doesn't fit into any of the other categories. Even if you think you need this category it should not be placed solely in full purpose maps, seeing as any type of map can be remade.
Yep, you can find my exact same thought above. ;) *twitch*
Morphine
03-06-2009, 11:38 AM
Yep, you can find my exact same thought above. ;) *twitch*
beat me too it... Another question why do we need a regular maps section? wouldn't they just be in the general competitive maps(full purpose or whatever you want to call them) section? Then all the MLG maps would fit into the subcategory?
Also I like the name Casual more than Recreational. Not to mention more people will be familiar with that name.
PsychoBucket
03-06-2009, 11:44 AM
Even if you think you need this category it should not be placed solely in full purpose maps, seeing as any type of map can be remade.
That is basically what I said.
Another question why do we need a regular maps section? wouldn't they just be in the general competitive maps(full purpose or whatever you want to call them) section? Then all the MLG maps would fit into the subcategory?
Well, I think it would look sloppy with everything a sub-category except one type.
Null Parameter
03-06-2009, 11:45 AM
Yeah, I actually don't mind staying with Competitive and Casual, because while people say that it is completely biased, it isn't on our site. We sort the maps for you. We aren't going to have some of the "regular" maps be in Casual, they would all be in Competitive.
I had a regular maps section, because like Psycho said, they might seem out of place to just go under the Competitive Forum, because no maps would go underneath the Casual Forum, which might confuse people. Although, personally it wouldn't be too bad.
Morphine
03-06-2009, 11:50 AM
because no maps would go underneath the Casual Forum, which might confuse people. Although, personally it wouldn't be too bad.
I think there would still be maps that fit under casual, Fishlowl and Dumbo Circus are good examples.
Null Parameter
03-06-2009, 11:53 AM
I think there would still be maps that fit under casual, Fishlowl and Dumbo Circus are good examples.
I guess, but we need a good way to automatically sort them.
And personally, I would put both of those into Mini-Games, just like they are now.
PsychoBucket
03-06-2009, 11:56 AM
We want them to be self-explanatory. Also, "Limited Purpose" just sounds so demeaning to the maps.
I think it is more self explanitory then causal/competive. People would just not be familier with it because other places use casual/competive. I understand what you mean about it being demeaning, but I think people already know it is limited when they make the map.
Null Parameter
03-06-2009, 11:59 AM
I think it is more self explanitory then causal/competive. People would just not be familier with it because other places use casual/competive. I understand what you mean about it being demeaning, but I think people already know it is limited when they make the map.
Yeah, but nobody thinks about it that way, for the exact reason that I stated before, it sounds demeaning.
Also, Morphine, all of the maps like Dumbo Circus and Fishlowl will need to stay in Mini-Games, unless we are going to hand sort all of the existing maps as well.
Morphine
03-06-2009, 12:07 PM
Also, Morphine, all of the maps like Dumbo Circus and Fishlowl will need to stay in Mini-Games, unless we are going to hand sort all of the existing maps as well.
Alright, I guess I always thought of casual games as minigames that still use traditional style combat. But I honestly wouldn't mind sorting them if you agree with my standards.
Null Parameter
03-06-2009, 12:15 PM
Alright, I guess I always thought of casual games as minigames that still use traditional style combat. But I honestly wouldn't mind sorting them if you agree with my standards.
Then we are getting back to the opinionated placing that we are trying to avoid. How do you distinguish between a mini-game and a casual game? And what is going to stop somebody from easily thinking one is the other?
PsychoBucket
03-06-2009, 12:25 PM
I think AZN FTW suggested Special Purpose. I think that would work better then limited purpose.
Morphine
03-06-2009, 12:45 PM
Then we are getting back to the opinionated placing that we are trying to avoid. How do you distinguish between a mini-game and a casual game? And what is going to stop somebody from easily thinking one is the other?
Casual games use traditional style combat like I said, if the object of the map is still defined and recognizable by the standard game types it's considered casual.
Minigames are more innovation, using a gametype in a new and unique way, more so than the map. Basically a standard gametype can not be easily substituted.
Null Parameter
03-06-2009, 12:53 PM
Casual games use traditional style combat like I said, if the object of the map is still defined and recognizable by the standard game types it's considered casual.
Minigames are more innovation, using a gametype in a new and unique way, more so than the map. Basically a standard gametype can not be easily substituted.
Personally, I don't think that utilizing this section for a small subset of maps that could just as easily be put into the Mini-Game section is worth it. Especially if we want to go with something like "Special Purpose" instead of "Casual". And getting others to understand that distinction might be difficult.
Although, I might be wrong. I'd really like somebody else's opinion on the matter.
PsychoBucket
03-06-2009, 12:58 PM
Casual games use traditional style combat like I said, if the object of the map is still defined and recognizable by the standard game types it's considered casual.
Minigames are more innovation, using a gametype in a new and unique way, more so than the map. Basically a standard gametype can not be easily substituted.
I still don't really like "casual" but if we did it like what you are saying it would have to be something like this
[main category 1]
Default
MLG
[main category 2]
Casual
Infection
Aesthetic
Mini-Games
Racing
Puzzles
Switches
Standard Gametype Maps (Conquest, MedBall, whatever is standardized)
Morphine
03-06-2009, 02:00 PM
I still don't really like "casual" but if we did it like what you are saying it would have to be something like this
[main category 1]
Default
MLG
[main category 2]
Casual
Infection
Aesthetic
Mini-Games
Racing
Puzzles
Switches
Standard Gametype Maps (Conquest, MedBall, whatever is standardized)
Why can't we just use casual and competitive as the base categories for each set of subcategories?
Null Parameter
03-06-2009, 02:10 PM
Like I said, I still don't see a big enough distinction between the Mini-Game and Casual, so this would be my new proposed hierarchy....
Competitive
Default (Name Pending)
MLG
Special Purpose (Name pending)
Infection
Mini-Games
Aesthetic
Racing
Puzzles
Switches
Standard Gametype Maps
Where Competitive and Special Purpose remain empty.
Thomas
03-06-2009, 03:32 PM
Like I said, I still don't see a big enough distinction between the Mini-Game and Casual, so this would be my new proposed hierarchy....
Competitive
Default (Name Pending)
MLG
Special Purpose (Name pending)
Infection
Mini-Games
Aesthetic
Racing
Puzzles
Switches
Standard Gametype Maps
Where Competitive and Special Purpose remain empty.
I like it, but the only thing I have against it is the "Switches". Is this section for maps that use Switches or maps just to show off Switches... like H3Artificer?
Morphine, I'm with Null on keeping away from being extremely opinionated, and it really helps that we have the forms to submit maps into the proper location.
Null Parameter
03-06-2009, 03:35 PM
Is this section for maps that use Switches or maps just to show off Switches... like H3Artificer?
Maps just to show off switches, not all maps that use them.
Scope
03-06-2009, 04:09 PM
Good to see we will have that.
PsychoBucket
03-06-2009, 07:07 PM
Like I said, I still don't see a big enough distinction between the Mini-Game and Casual, so this would be my new proposed hierarchy....
Competitive
Default (Name Pending)
MLG
Special Purpose (Name pending)
Infection
Mini-Games
Aesthetic
Racing
Puzzles
Switches
Standard Gametype Maps
Where Competitive and Special Purpose remain empty.
I think that would be fine. I understand the differences that morphine was saying, but I think it would need a different name (not casual).
GodlyPerfection
03-06-2009, 07:40 PM
Competitive
Default (Name Pending)
MLG
Special Purpose (Name pending)
Infection
Mini-Games
Aesthetic
Racing
Puzzles
Switches
Standard Gametype Maps
I still don't think infection should be a subforum... it's stupid... it is a default gametype... oh well... it doesn't really fit underneath competitive, but it does fit under default... :( And hopefully we standardize an infection gametype soon... I'm tired of all the random infection gametypes that are similiar with minor differences... argh...
As for the rest... I think Special purpose works much better, but I'm still against Competitive... any suggestions?
Scope
03-06-2009, 08:40 PM
For competitive, we could a place just for FFA.
Thomas
03-06-2009, 08:43 PM
For competitive, we could a place just for FFA.
I can see where you're getting at, but I don't think it would be popular enough to get its own forum.
Scope
03-06-2009, 09:14 PM
I can see where you're getting at, but I don't think it would be popular enough to get its own forum.
Neither do I. I just thought it would help the map section.
Thomas
03-07-2009, 12:34 PM
We need to get this updated this weekend, so if you want another category (with purpose) then you need to say so NOW!
Null Parameter
03-07-2009, 12:45 PM
We need to get this updated this weekend, so if you want another category (with purpose) then you need to say so NOW!
Yep, because this doesn't just involve reorganizing the forums, I also have to rewrite a lot of the Map Submission code.
Coyote1023
03-07-2009, 12:57 PM
Universal
Default (name change?)
MLG
Specialized
Unique (or some other name)
Mini-Games
Aesthetic
Racing
Puzzles
Switches
Standard Gametype Maps
So universal means: Supports all default gametypes, like a bungie map, default is Normal halo maps (similar to bungie's). Unique would be the "casual" games or the games that require certain gametypes.
PsychoBucket
03-07-2009, 04:19 PM
I like Universal and Special Purpose.
Null Parameter
03-07-2009, 06:00 PM
I don't like Universal, because it isn't Universal. Universal would include Special Purpose.
BabySmuggler
03-07-2009, 09:22 PM
I like the Universal And Special Purpose Idea for the layout. The names would just have to be tweaked a bit.
PsychoBucket
03-07-2009, 10:15 PM
I don't like Universal, because it isn't Universal. Universal would include Special Purpose.
No because special purpose maps are not universal.
Null Parameter
03-07-2009, 10:33 PM
No because special purpose maps are not universal.
Okay, but a map that only supports Team Slayer isn't Universal either.
Murdock Sampson
03-07-2009, 10:44 PM
Well I think I have to go more in depth with my decision. First off, I picked option A, but I think option B would also work. So let me explain why:
Easy accessibility for new members.
I think that having categories divided into subcategories would be best for new members/guests. If you want to quickly browse, it'd be easier to search through tags than to search through multiple forums. I think that the old forum is the least helpful, because if I want to find an Infection map, I don't want have to search through 3 different forums.
That's why I think the less forums them best. Of course, there comes the problem with finding the right gametype. I think having subforums would be successful, but tags would also work really well. Perhaps having several forums with tags instead of subforums is best.
I also like the Universal idea, since it puts everything in place, put perhaps renaming parts would be best, since new people won't understand what all of it means.
Murdock Sampson
03-07-2009, 11:21 PM
Universal
Default (name change?)
MLG
Specialized
Unique (or some other name)
Mini-Games
Aesthetic
Racing
Puzzles
Switches
Standard Gametype Maps
Okay well Null pointed out to me that Option A won't get picked, so I'm going to try and Come up with a system that works following this structure. I'm thinking more like:
Defaults Gametypes
Supports All
Supports.... (Idk how to figure out this part)*
Custom Gametypes
Unique (I think something else would be better, but IDK what...)
Mini-Games (Puzzles go here)*
Aesthetic (Switches go here)*
Racing
MLG
Standard Gametype Maps
*Tags, perhaps?
Anyways I think that might work.
Null Parameter
03-08-2009, 04:55 PM
Okay, from the input we've received, I think this is going to be the finalized forum structure.........
Standard Gametypes
Conventional
Infection
MLG
Special Purpose
Aesthetic
Mini-Games
Puzzles
Racing
Switches
XForgery Official Gametypes
You'll notice that the once "Standard Gametypes" are now "XForgery Official Gametypes", and that the "Universal" title was changed to "Standard Gametypes".
This was done to get rid of any confusion between the two. The Standard Gametypes are those that come Standard with Halo 3 (or are highly standardized elsewhere, like MLG); basically, the ones you see in matchmaking.
Based on other input, we added the Conventional category, where all of your "Normal" maps will go. This will mean that there are no maps contained in the Standard or Special Purpose forums, but all within the subforums.
I'll be making these changes right now, so you'll see a lot of churn in the very near future.
Soren515
03-08-2009, 04:56 PM
yay this will make my life easier
PsychoBucket
03-08-2009, 05:24 PM
Okay, from the input we've received, I think this is going to be the finalized forum structure.........
Standard Gametypes
Conventional
Infection
MLG
Special Purpose
Aesthetic
Mini-Games
Puzzles
Racing
Switches
XForgery Official Gametypes
I like that (happy faic)!
BabySmuggler
03-08-2009, 09:58 PM
Uhhh, I found a problem. There needs to be two infections I think. One for the Maps that require a Special Game and one for Standardized Infection
Null Parameter
03-08-2009, 10:29 PM
Uhhh, I found a problem. There needs to be two infections I think. One for the Maps that require a Special Game and one for Standardized Infection
Infection is Infection. If you have a special gametype for it, but it still is basically infection (i.e. Humans vs Zombies), than it still belongs there. Post it under Infection, and include the Gametype along with it.
If your map just uses infection as a tool to create a new gametype, it is a Mini-Game.
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