February Forgery Challenge

[Null Parameter]

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Here we are, with another Forging Challenge for all of you. This one will be a little different than the others for several reasons; but we'll get to that later.

I'll just get this out of the way before I talk about anything else.......

For the First Place Winner of this Challenge, we are giving away.......

The Mythic Map Pack


Yep, you read that right. Your very own copy, free of charge. But, more on that later.

The challenge this time around is Pre-DLC Innovation.

What does this mean?

As you can infer from the challenge title, you must forge this on a Pre-DLC Map. (Oh noes! No Foundry!)

What you might not get directly from the title is the meaning behind Innovation.

Innovation means that we want something new. We want you to use your brain and give us something that we haven't seen before. Create something. Bring us a new breed of game.

Now, this isn't just a forging challenge, this innovation mainly applies to the gametype for the map.

That's right! All submissions need both a map and gametype. Luckily, this is Pre-DLC, so you don't need to worry about Geo-Merging to perfection, as has become standard nowadays. **shudders** As we all know though, a lot of the real innovation comes from the Gametype, so that is where a lot of the judging will be made.

A good example of this idea of Pre-DLC Innovation is the new map Valkyrie (http://xforgery.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1129). It brings a new gametype to the table (Warthog Wingman) and provides a map to play it on. Don't worry though, I won't enter it into the challenge. ;)

How long do I have?

That's one of the other changes for this Challenge. You have only until next Monday (3/2/09) to finish. This is a sprint of a challenge, as it only lasts 7 Days.

Like I said though, no need to interlock or geo-merge. Pre-DLC FTW!

So hurry up and get working, because......

Why should I enter?

I'm glad you asked. There is a very good reason to enter this challenge.
Prizes!

As has become standard here on Forgery, winners will receive 1 Month of Supporter Status.

For those of you who are new to Forgery, and there's definitely a few of you, here are the perks for having Supporter:


Access to your very own Blog (http://xforgery.com/forum/blog.php)
Access to the Supporter Lounge
New color for your username
The ability to change your User Title at any time
A nice Badge by your Name
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/6326/supporterv2dx1.png
A little extra influence in the community :D

If you want to get access to Supporter Status without having to win, or for more than the 1 month, you can go here to Support XF (http://www.xforgery.com/forum/payments.php).

In addition to this though, the 1st Place Winner will receive.........

The Mythic Map Pack

You will get these, completely free!
HOORAY! :thumbup:

To reiterate,


First Place

Mythic Map Pack
1 Month Supporter Status


Runners-Up (# Determined by number of Entrants)

1 Month Supporter Status




How are winners chosen?

After all submissions are collected on March 2nd, they will all be placed into a Poll that only Supporters can see. This will allow the Supporters (you know who you are) to play the games and vote on their favorites. A short while later, the Top 5 voted maps will be moved to a Public Poll where everyone can vote for their favorite one. (make sure you play them first ;))

By Friday, March 5th, we'll have a winner and they will be given a code to download the Mythic Map Pack. I realize that this is a couple days after the Mythic Maps come out, but that still gives those who pre-ordered Halo Wars a little bit of an edge. ;P

How do I enter?

First, you must submit your map here on XF. You can do so by going to any of the map forums and hitting the big "Submit Map" button; or you can simply follow this link...... SUBMIT MAP (http://www.xforgery.com/forum/newthread.php?do=form_map_halo3)!

After you have done that, go over to this post to submit:

SUBMIT YOUR MAP (http://xforgery.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1165)


That's it! You're done!

Anything else?

Why, yes, there is more. <3 Thomas.


Feel free to post more than one map, but only one of your maps will ever make it to the Top 5, just to spread around the possibilities. So, while it doesn't increase your chances from within the Public Vote, it might from within the Supporter Vote.

[Skittlemeister]

Oh NO! I can't enter in this?! Please let me, since I see no other entrants, unless the entering is on another thread >.>

[Null Parameter]

Oh NO! I can't enter in this?! Please let me, since I see no other entrants, unless the entering is on another thread >.>
Why can't you enter?

[Denominator]

A good example of this idea of Pre-DLC Innovation is the new map Valkyrie (http://xforgery.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1129). It brings a new gametype to the table (Warthog Wingman) and provides a map to play it on. Don't worry though, I won't enter it into the challenge. ;)

That's not to say I won't...

But that brings up a question - what if the map/gametype are co-forged, such as Valkyrie?

[Null Parameter]

If you co-forge, there will only be once code. So, you'll need to pick a recipient for it.
But you will both get Supporter Status.

[Coyote1023]

This sounds like alot of fun, I think I will give it a try. Now to think up and idea

[Skittlemeister]

Why can't you enter?
It says it is (was over) the 3rd of february? Did I misread this?

Monday (3/2/09)

[Denominator]

It says it is (was over) the 3rd of february? Did I misread this?

Monday (3/2/09)

Other way around. You have your month/day confused.

[Skittlemeister]

Oh, alright. It's spanish class, having their damn months and days switched on me. Thanks.

[Skittlemeister]

I have to ask: Will making a conquest-based map get anywhere near good points in this? I know its the gametype you mainly want, but is that a possibility if i made a good one?

[BabySmuggler]

I can post more than one map right?

[Skittlemeister]

No, don't participate. I wanna win :P

[Null Parameter]

I have to ask: Will making a conquest-based map get anywhere near good points in this? I know its the gametype you mainly want, but is that a possibility if i made a good one?
I will tell you that unless the map is really innovative to the Conquest gametype, than it won't have a very good chance against the Brand New gametypes. But, you can always submit it and see. :D

I can post more than one map right?
Feel free to post more than one map, but only one of your maps will ever make it to the Top 5, just to spread around the possibilities. So, while it doesn't increase your chances from within the Public Vote, it might from within the Supporter Vote.

[BabySmuggler]

I actually wanted to show you guys something;

Originally Posted by AeroNotix
DAMMIT that code would have helped me and my brother out a helluva lot.

God damn, I work every ****ing night to earn money for us and all we wanted was that code to get more maps to play halo 3 on. Every ****ing night till 6 am, I can't afford these new maps and this could've helped me out. He's wheelchair bound and I earn the money for me and my brother so we can eat.

I thought God would've stepped in here but now I see, God doesn't want me to be playing Halo 3, even if it is what one of his miscreations wants to play.
That's a quote from one of the post-giveaway forums at MLGpro.com. I really hope no one here gets really mad if they don't win in the map making competition. I know that if I don't win it's off to Gamestop. Hello Halo Wars LE.

[PsychoBucket]

Does this have to be a new map? I made a map over a year ago and I just realized I forgot to post it a week ago. Of course that is only if I don't have enough time to make a new one.

[Null Parameter]

If you hadn't said anything, I never would have known it was a year old. So, the answer is, of course, yes.

[BabySmuggler]

Does this have to be a new map? I made a map over a year ago and I just realized I forgot to post it a week ago. Of course that is only if I don't have enough time to make a new one.

Slip n' Slide I see?

[goatnuts420]

are honor rules looked down on or are they not going to hurt my score, not very extreme honor rules though.

[MNM1245]

Just wondering is that the Mythic Map Pack that AZN supplied cause he said he wasn going to since he got his already. I'm guessing it is ut idk???

[Null Parameter]

Yep, it is courtesy of AZN FTW!

[PsychoBucket]

are honor rules looked down on or are they not going to hurt my score, not very extreme honor rules though.

Well the top 5 are being picked by supporters and the #1 is going to be picked by the whole community. That means that there is not really an answer to your question. It depends on the people voting.

[Null Parameter]

Well the top 5 are being picked by supporters and the #1 is going to be picked by the whole community. That means that there is not really an answer to your question. It depends on the people voting.
Exactly.

[MNM1245]

You know I love how this site has these monthly contests? This sets you guys apart from FH so much I love it here cause it is such a quaint friendly community unlike FH which is crowded and noob infested and I was there toooooo long

[Denominator]

This sets you guys apart from FH so much I love it here cause it is such a quaint friendly community unlike FH which is crowded and noob infested and I was there toooooo long

It's quaint and friendly because it's so small. If this gets as big as it possibly can, it's going to be crowded and n00b infested too. That's part of being big.

The difference is going to be the moderation and administration that keep it community based.

[CaMOfo]

I've been thinking of a gametype for the mythic maps, but I guess I'll just make it for this contest and then redo it on the maps when I win. :P

[Morphine]

I didn't notice anything about this in the initial post, but one submission per person?

[PsychoBucket]

I didn't notice anything about this in the initial post, but one submission per person?

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[Zackj191]

I'm entering Crate hill

http://xforgery.com/forum/showthread.php?p=12223&posted=1#post12223

[RightSideTheory]

If I win can I turn down some of the prizes?

[GodlyPerfection]

We need to make a submission thread that's seperate from this Null... also RST you can turn down some of the prizes and they will go down to the next runner up I assume...

[Thomas]

We need to make a submission thread that's seperate from this Null... also RST you can turn down some of the prizes and they will go down to the next runner up I assume...
That what I used to try to enforce... but somewhere it got killed.

I didn't notice anything about this in the initial post, but one submission per person?
Adding that to the first post, last line. :D

[Null Parameter]

That what I used to try to enforce... but somewhere it got killed.
It got killed when people always ignored the "Go Here To Submit!" and submitted in this thread instead.

If you guys want, we can try that again, but I think sending people somewhere else is overly complicated.

[Zackj191]

It got killed when people always ignored the "Go Here To Submit!" and submitted in this thread instead.

If you guys want, we can try that again, but I think sending people somewhere else is overly complicated.


I looked for a sumbit thread in the OP but couldn't find one

[Thomas]

It got killed when people always ignored the "Go Here To Submit!" and submitted in this thread instead.
We can change it to a shiny button that everyone loves to push. ;)

[Null Parameter]

I looked for a sumbit thread in the OP but couldn't find one
There isn't one, because people tended to ignore it in the past. But, it looks like there might end up being one now. We'll post again if/when this is changed.

[GD27 ShockWave]

I will definately be entering this! I love minigames and I happen to have been working on one. I set it asside to make my Atlas entery and I think it has the calibur to be successful. Good Luck to all!

[Coyote1023]

What time on the 2nd does it end?

Edit:Sweet, I got my idea, dates back to the FH "battle" contest, I never made it though. It is going to be sweet... Interested? Look up Tamerlane...

[Null Parameter]

You need to post it before the 2nd ends, so 11:59:59PM and we'll say that is Central Time. Central FTW!

[Zackj191]

There isn't one, because people tended to ignore it in the past. But, it looks like there might end up being one now. We'll post again if/when this is changed.


K, if you make one, let me know so i can submit my map correctly

[Thomas]

You need to post it before the 2nd ends, so 11:59:59PM and we'll say that is Central Time. Central FTW!
Should be PST if we want to be more correct. :scared:

[ForgeGod117]

I would like to submit my map Crossfire to this contest. Thank you Null Parameter for making this contest a reality! (http://www.xforgery.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1163)

[Null Parameter]

Should be PST if we want to be more correct. :scared:
I can make it New Foundland time if you want?

[Null Parameter]

There's now a thread for you to separately submit your entries.

Don't worry, I copied over those who already entered. ;)

[Zackj191]

I can make it New Foundland time if you want?


I say PST. I use PST so i'm voting for that! :)

[Skittlemeister]

Okay, One more question. I have my map fully developed, but I have not tested it (other than spawns, which I am doing now). Could I enter it un-tested? Or could people please help me test? I can't explain on live (no mic) but I can explain here.

[Thomas]

Okay, One more question. I have my map fully developed, but I have not tested it (other than spawns, which I am doing now). Could I enter it un-tested? Or could people please help me test? I can't explain on live (no mic) but I can explain here.
You can post anything un-tested. However, any problems that might have been an easy fix will come back to bite you.

We have a Forum (http://www.xforgery.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=35) dedicated to helping everyone get maps tested, but it's pretty hidden at the moment. I've been thinking about bringing it out to the front page to further aid everyone, but haven't had motivation.

[Denominator]

I can make it New Foundland time if you want?

I second this notion. Newfoundland time for the win!

[Zackj191]

use PST cuz it's win!

[Desert Rat 852]

use PST cuz it's win!


More like Central, man. CST FTW!

[Thomas]

I second this notion. Newfoundland time for the win!
That'll fuck everyone up so badly...
use PST cuz it's win!
I suggested PST because of Bungie and M$ both being centered around PST so the official updates happen according to this timezone.

Someone make a poll on it. lawlz.XD

[GodlyPerfection]

Actually that makes sense... I could do PST... that's like my GF's timezone anyway...

[Zackj191]

M$ stands for Microsoft i'm guessing?

[Denominator]

That'll fuck everyone up so badly...

Except due to the half hour offset EVERYBODY knows which timezone it is. You don't have to specify because you can see 7:30 and know it's Newfoundland.

[DimmestBread]

Who are the judges that actually download the map, play it and rate it.

[Null Parameter]

How are winners chosen?

After all submissions are collected on March 2nd, they will all be placed into a Poll that only Supporters can see. This will allow the Supporters (you know who you are) to play the games and vote on their favorites. A short while later, the Top 5 voted maps will be moved to a Public Poll where everyone can vote for their favorite one. (make sure you play them first ;))

By Friday, March 5th, we'll have a winner and they will be given a code to download the Mythic Map Pack. I realize that this is a couple days after the Mythic Maps come out, but that still gives those who pre-ordered Halo Wars a little bit of an edge. ;P

[Playerhata27]

A suggestion. When the community is depended on to vote, can it be a substantial comment, rather then a poll. People can mindlessly vote, with no clear intention of doing so. Needless to say, I'm sure some people could even go to the extent of making proxy's just to inflate their votes. It's just a suggestion that I feel would broaden peoples chances, rather then it depending on popularity.

Anyway, thanks AZN on devoting one of your codes to the community. I'll be glad to enter this, as I'm a fan of Pre-DLC. Good luck to all the entrants.

[DeathsFriend22]

A suggestion. When the community is depended on to vote, can it be a substantial comment, rather then a poll. People can mindlessly vote, with no clear intention of doing so. Needless to say, I'm sure some people could even go to the extent of making proxy's just to inflate their votes. It's just a suggestion that I feel would broaden peoples chances, rather then it depending on popularity.

Anyway, thanks AZN on devoting one of your codes to the community. I'll be glad to enter this, as I'm a fan of Pre-DLC. Good luck to all the entrants.

i second this.

I was going to post about how it could turn into a popularity contest before I read this.

[RebornYeti]

Man, it's hard to see some innovation in Halo 3 at the moment lol. It seems that most ideas have already been taken.

I will try my best though.

[DimmestBread]

Thanks null. Was that in the post or did you reply to someone else with it because I must have completely missed it.

Just a couple things.

With the public poll, there is no guarantee everyone will play the map and it might turn into a popularity contest.

What are supporters, I'm new and still finding my way around. Are they like loyals on forgehub?

[Null Parameter]

Thanks null. Was that in the post or did you reply to someone else with it because I must have completely missed it.
It was in the original post. You must have missed it ;P

With the public poll, there is no guarantee everyone will play the map and it might turn into a popularity contest.We know that this could be an issue. We are hoping that people will be civil and it won't be. But, if it is so, we'll deal with it then.

What are supporters, I'm new and still finding my way around. Are they like loyals on forgehub?
For those of you who are new to Forgery, and there's definitely a few of you, here are the perks for having Supporter:


Access to your very own Blog (http://xforgery.com/forum/blog.php)
Access to the Supporter Lounge
New color for your username
The ability to change your User Title at any time
A nice Badge by your Name
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/6326/supporterv2dx1.png (http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/6326/supporterv2dx1.png)
A little extra influence in the community :D

If you want to get access to Supporter Status without having to win, or for more than the 1 month, you can go here to Support XF (http://www.xforgery.com/forum/payments.php).
Also in the post. ;)

[Coyote1023]

Ironically enough, Sandtrap (or Sandtarp in my case) doesn't have enough good movable objects. Only 8 crates and 12 of the covi boxes. I wish I could have had more, but I will have to improvise. I just noticed, Sandtrap also doesn't have deployable cover or carbines (carbines I also needed, so I had to improvise w/ BRs, not as realistic 4 the feel I was going 4 tho ): )

[DimmestBread]

It was in the original post. You must have missed it ;P

We know that this could be an issue. We are hoping that people will be civil and it won't be. But, if it is so, we'll deal with it then.



Also in the post. ;)

I'm going back to 1st grade reading. I don't know how I missed all that but thanks. I'll learn soon enough. So tuesday, I will have one done, and I know there is a submit button there, I at least saw that so I won't be freaking out at the last minute.

[Furry]

Shouldn't there be a specific category or theme?

Surely, you can't compare a mini-game's quality to that of a competitive one...

I skimmed the article and might have skipped over that detail.

[Null Parameter]

I'm going back to 1st grade reading. I don't know how I missed all that but thanks. I'll learn soon enough. So tuesday, I will have one done, and I know there is a submit button there, I at least saw that so I won't be freaking out at the last minute.

Not to do this to you again, but just to make sure you know
"You have only until next Monday (3/2/09) to finish."
Not Tuesday.

Shouldn't there be a specific category or theme?

Surely, you can't compare a mini-game's quality to that of a competitive one...

I skimmed the article and might have skipped over that detail.
You are correct. It can be difficult to compare the two types of games.
But, as was stated, we are mainly looking for the Innovation in some new type of Gametype, plus a map to support it.

So, in general, it is difficult to bring a new, innovative gametype to the Competitive side of things; but if somebody does it, and does it well, people will recognize that.

We aren't saying "The Best Mini-Game Wins", but rather "The Idea that is the most fun and brings something interesting and new to the table Wins".
In the end, this challenge is decided by the users, so give them something they will love, and they will show you some love in return. ;)

[Furry]

You are correct. It can be difficult to compare the two types of games.
But, as was stated, we are mainly looking for the Innovation in some new type of Gametype, plus a map to support it.


Gotchya. I think I'm going to remake a campaign level on Narrows. It will be easy to assemble. I'll even include 4 different gametypes entitled Easy, Normal, Heroic, Legendary. I hope nobody steals my idea... I will murderlize you if you do. Null got mah back.

:)

[Null Parameter]

Gotchya. I think I'm going to remake a campaign level on Narrows. It will be easy to assemble. I'll even include 4 different gametypes entitled Easy, Normal, Heroic, Legendary. I hope nobody steals my idea... I will muderlize you if you do. Null got mah back.

:)
I got ya covered. :ninja:

[DimmestBread]

Not to do this to you again, but just to make sure you know
"You have only until next Monday (3/2/09) to finish."
Not Tuesday.

Alright Kindergarten reading. Tuesday is when the maps come out so this makes more sense. I guess I was thinking when the maps came out as I was typing.

[GodlyPerfection]

For Tuesday-Thursday you guys want to make sure you get as many friends over here to vote as possible... you won't win otherwise... :) advertise away... ;) I think I"m going to submit the platform this weekend...

[devclasof2012rox]

Does this map have to be competitive or can it be anything?

[PsychoBucket]

Does this map have to be competitive or can it be anything?

It can be anything as long as it is Pre-DLC, but the point of this competition is Innovation. That means it should be something new or unique.

[CaMOfo]

AZN what time are you guys going to test play the maps?
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[Scope]

I like the idea of this. I will enter this. =D

Awesome prize

[Soren515]

Yay AZN for giving us prizes and paying for our severs :)

[Scope]

So it is over correct?

How soon will we know the winners?

[Null Parameter]

So it is over correct?

How soon will we know the winners?
You still have until midnight tonight, Central Time.