Semantics of XF/xF [Archive]

Defiance

07-31-2010, 12:42 AM

What is wrong with writing it xForgery over XForgery?
(Prove your point and back it up with logical reasons.
Use semantics :3.)
(Typing too fast correcting statement.
Thread created because of:
[2:41:10 AM] Kyle (C): Prove to me that you wouldn't fail. That's a good reason.
[2:41:27 AM] Kyle (C): Or that Tipsta's going to post this in Qwitter and you'll look like a coward if you don't post it
[2:41:41 AM] tipsta: True fact.

mista tipsta

07-31-2010, 12:43 AM

The lowercase "x" is what's wrong.

Defiance

07-31-2010, 12:45 AM

The lowercase "x" is what's wrong.

How so?

wiggums

07-31-2010, 12:47 AM

It's because I don't go to xForgery.com every day. I go to XForgery.com

Defiance

07-31-2010, 12:50 AM

It's because I don't go to xForgery.com every day. I go to XForgery.com

Incorrect the domain is xforgery.com.No uppercase letters are used.

wiggums

07-31-2010, 12:52 AM

Incorrect the domain is xforgery.com.No uppercase letters are used.
Don't take it so literally. It's called www.youtube.com but you wouldn't formally call it "youtube" you'd call it "Youtube."

Defiance

07-31-2010, 12:54 AM

Not what I meant. It's called www.youtube.com but you wouldn't formally call it "youtube" you'd call it "Youtube."

Our logo says XFORGERY.

GOG TOXIC

07-31-2010, 12:54 AM

According to the title at the top of my screen it's written XFORGERY

Defiance

07-31-2010, 12:56 AM

According to the title at the top of my screen it's written XFORGERY

Which is neither XForgery or xForgery.Correct?

mista tipsta

07-31-2010, 12:57 AM

This one says XForgery.
http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo137/mista_tipsta/3fd5b94e.png

Defiance

07-31-2010, 12:58 AM

This one says XForgery
http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo137/mista_tipsta/3fd5b94e.png
Yet the newest most accurate one says XFORGERY.

wiggums

07-31-2010, 12:58 AM

Which is neither XForgery or xForgery.Correct?

Ok how about this. The creators of the site both call it XForgery.

Defiance

07-31-2010, 01:01 AM

Ok how about this. The creators of the site both call it XForgery.
Then why is the logo which is the medium for advertising the site written out otherwise?

GOG TOXIC

07-31-2010, 01:03 AM

This is a pointless argument

mista tipsta

07-31-2010, 01:04 AM

The Update threads are written with "XForgery".

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo137/mista_tipsta/7bd00379.png

Defiance

07-31-2010, 01:04 AM

This is a pointless argument
That is why I wrote "Semantics."

Defiance

07-31-2010, 01:06 AM

The Update threads are written with "XForgery".

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo137/mista_tipsta/7bd00379.png
Could be used for the ease of writing when used frequently.

Coyote1023

07-31-2010, 01:10 AM

The banner is typography, it is supposed to be different in order to look good. In no way have you proved that YOUR version is right. Go ahead and prove it instead of trying to prove us wrong?

wiggums

07-31-2010, 01:11 AM

On the very skin that you used as defense:
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll183/Chiefwiggum00/XFproof.jpg

XF, XF, and XForgery.

Defiance

07-31-2010, 01:14 AM

On the very skin that you used as defense:
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll183/Chiefwiggum00/XFproof.jpg

XF, XF, and XForgery.Again XF can easily be XFORGERY, and XForgery could be used because of the common use of the word.

The banner is typography, it is supposed to be different in order to look good. In no way have you proved that YOUR version is right. Go ahead and prove it instead of trying to prove us wrong?
And XForgery could be used because of the ease it is to use it.Would it matter to prove "my version"?

Coyote1023

07-31-2010, 01:20 AM

Yes. Because so far, there are no official uses of "your version." If you can show me 1 single official use of xForgery, I will accept it.

Defiance

07-31-2010, 01:20 AM

Yes. Because so far, there are no official uses of "your version." If you can show me 1 single official use of xForgery, I will accept it.Who had ever said that was my version? :awe:

Coyote1023

07-31-2010, 01:21 AM

Regardless, my point stands.

Defiance

07-31-2010, 01:23 AM

Regardless, my point stands.
[2:41:10 AM] Kyle (C): Prove to me that you wouldn't fail. That's a good reason.
[2:41:27 AM] Kyle (C): Or that Tipsta's going to post this in Qwitter and you'll look like a coward if you don't post it
[2:41:41 AM] tipsta: True fact.
[2:42:23 AM] Dylan: I already posted it.
[2:42:33 AM] Dylan: I still won't fail.
[2:44:52 AM] Dylan: This shall be fun.

I believe your point was for me to fail correct?
Due, to semantics I have no failed nor shall I fail in this thread.

wiggums

07-31-2010, 01:24 AM

Ok how about this. The creators of the site both call it XForgery.

This still has yet to be proved wrong.

Defiance

07-31-2010, 01:27 AM

This still has yet to be proved wrong.
And your point? :]

Artifex

07-31-2010, 01:32 AM

Defiance, what the hell are you talking about. If even the owners of the site call it XForgery it is obviously XF not xF.

Defiance

07-31-2010, 01:33 AM

Defiance, what the hell are you talking about. If even the owners of the site call it XForgery it is obviously XF not xF.
Never said it wasn't.

Artifex

07-31-2010, 01:34 AM

Never said it wasn't.

It doesn't matter what you said, you're obviously implying that it should be xForgery not XForgery.

wiggums

07-31-2010, 01:34 AM

And your point? :]
Only that all your points have been dis-proven, and that not a single one of ours has.

Which is neither XForgery or xForgery.Correct?

Yet the newest most accurate one says XFORGERY.

Then why is the logo which is the medium for advertising the site written out otherwise?

Typography. Coyote has confirmed this. It's for effect. The banner would look odd without it.

Could be used for the ease of writing when used frequently.

Again XF can easily be XFORGERY, and XForgery could be used because of the common use of the word.

And XForgery could be used because of the ease it is to use it.Would it matter to prove "my version"?

The ease? Or because the site founders call it that. The staff here don't slack. They name the updates correctly with the actual name of the site.

I realize this is all for semantics, and that you're just trying to prove a point that you can't fail. But denying failure in this situation is still failing. Your case has no ground. Your denial can't stop us from realizing your complete failure with this entire thread.

Defiance

07-31-2010, 01:37 AM

Only that all your points have been dis-proven, and that not a single one of ours has.

Typography. Coyote has confirmed this. It's for effect. The banner would look odd without it.

The ease? Or because the site founders call it that. The staff here don't slack. They name the updates correctly with the actual name of the site.

I realize this is all for semantics, and that you're just trying to prove a point that you can't fail. But denying failure in this situation is still failing. Your case has no ground. Your denial can't stop us from realizing your complete failure with this entire thread.

It doesn't matter what you said, you're obviously implying that it should be xForgery not XForgery.

If you realize this is all for semantics you should realize that I did not fail because instead I opened up a debate for the argument using semantics.Never have I said which one has more validity.

Artifex

07-31-2010, 01:38 AM

If you realize this is all for semantics you should realize that I did not fail because instead I opened up a debate for the argument using semantics.Never have I said which one has more validity.

Listen, you can say you haven't failed, and semantically you haven't, but we will all acknowledge that you have failed.

wiggums

07-31-2010, 01:40 AM

Good luck with all your semantics then. :)

Defiance

07-31-2010, 01:40 AM

Listen, you can say you haven't failed, and semantically you haven't, but we will all acknowledge that you have failed.

So, I fail because you guys just say I fail?

RPAL

07-31-2010, 01:42 AM

So, I fail because you guys just say I fail?

Just like you say its xF....Yes.

Oh, and i'm pretty sure the XFORGERY font is an all-uppercase font, but i may be mistaken.

Defiance

07-31-2010, 01:47 AM

Just like you say its xF....Yes.

Oh, and i'm pretty sure the XFORGERY font is an all-uppercase font, but i may be mistaken.

I never said it was xF.

RPAL

07-31-2010, 01:50 AM

I never said it was xF.
You never said it wasn't.

Defiance

07-31-2010, 01:55 AM

You never said it wasn't.
It isn't because of a thread where we chose to change the name a while ago.
I was just using small details and facts to make valid holes in other arguments.Not proving them wrong,but making them unstable.

philthyphillup

07-31-2010, 01:59 AM

I never said it was xF.

You implied it. And yes, you did fail. All you're doing is trying to get around what everyone is saying by saying its all about "semantics".

You know, semantics means: "the study of linguistic development by classifying and examining changes in meaning and form."

There is no debate because semantics is all about opinion, but this obviously isn't a case of opinion. It is XForgery as stated earlier on multiple accounts.

Artifex

07-31-2010, 02:00 AM

Defiance

07-31-2010, 02:03 AM

You implied it. And yes, you did fail. All you're doing is trying to get around what everyone is saying by saying its all about "semantics".

You know, semantics means: "the study of linguistic development by classifying and examining changes in meaning and form."

There is no debate because semantics is all about opinion, but this obviously isn't a case of opinion. It is XForgery as stated earlier on multiple accounts.
Oh, well the reason why semantics are involved was because of the "Failing point." that Coyote had given me. Wasn't about the argument itself I was just trying to make it seem as though I implied that it would be.
<strongx500>umad</strongx500>
Also Nah.I'm having fun.Coyote was the one that was mad.

RPAL

07-31-2010, 02:09 AM

http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww119/RPAL/ironic.png

Funny enough, that just showed up in the index.

Defiance

07-31-2010, 02:10 AM

http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww119/RPAL/ironic.png

Funny enough, that just showed up in the index.

Again. I am not arguing for either point.

Artifex

07-31-2010, 02:18 AM

Again. I am not arguing for either point.

Orly?

What is wrong with writing it xForgery over XForgery?

You're obviously "arguing" in favor of xForgery if that is your opening statement for the thread.

Defiance

07-31-2010, 02:20 AM

Orly?

You're obviously "arguing" in favor of xForgery if that is your opening statement for the thread.

Semantics kick in again.My meaning of it was "What is wrong with it?"
Not "I dont see anything wrong with it."

philthyphillup

07-31-2010, 02:25 AM

Semantics kick in again.My meaning of it was "What is wrong with it?"
Not "I dont see anything wrong with it."

Well you can mean anything you want by it, but if you don't go about explaining yourself and your case properly it doesn't mean anything to us.

Defiance

07-31-2010, 02:28 AM

Well you can mean anything you want by it, but if you don't go about explaining yourself and your case properly it doesn't mean anything to us.
Yet, it isn't my fail when others fail to assume the correct assumption of what I imply. :3
Also, I believe explaining myself is what I am doing now, is it not?

Artifex

07-31-2010, 02:32 AM

Yet, it isn't my fail when others fail to assume the correct assumption of what I imply. :3
Also, I believe explaining myself is what I am doing now, is it not?

No, you're being one hell'ov a failure troll.

Defiance

07-31-2010, 02:33 AM

No, you're being one hell'ov a failure troll.
How have I failed?

wiggums

07-31-2010, 02:33 AM

No, you're being one hell'ov a failure troll.

May I introduce you to defiance. :)

philthyphillup

07-31-2010, 02:33 AM

Explain:
1. to make plain or clear; render understandable or intelligible
2. to make known in detail
3. to assign a meaning to; interpret
4. to make clear the cause or reason of; account for

I have yet to see you do any of these things. You keep going around everyone's words. You haven't explained a single thing.

Defiance

07-31-2010, 02:34 AM

May I introduce you to defiance. :)

Hey it took me 5 pages to be recognized as a troll.
I say successful troll is successful.

Explain:
1. to make plain or clear; render understandable or intelligible
2. to make known in detail
3. to assign a meaning to; interpret
4. to make clear the cause or reason of; account for

I have yet to see you do any of these things. You keep going around everyone's word. You haven't explained a single thing.

I have already stated that I made this thread because of Coyote,That I know it is XForgery, and that I have been trolling.
I believe everything is cleared up, my dear Watson.

Hadokenchild

07-31-2010, 02:43 AM

Artifex

07-31-2010, 02:44 AM

No, it took 5 pages before people got fed up with your shenanigans before finally calling your bluff.

Defiance

07-31-2010, 02:45 AM

*beep* *beep* *beep* *beep*
Watch out everyone, backing up here!
*beep* *beep* *beep* *beep*
I have a delivery of a 20 ton galvanized thread lock. I need a signature and a spot to drop it.

OT - I actually spell it xFoRgErY on alternating Tuesdays and Saturdays, the rest of the time it's XfOrGeRy.

I was told I HAD to make this thread on the debate forum other wise I would be a coward.
*cough*Coyote wuz mad*cough*
No, it took 5 pages before people got fed up with your shenanigans before finally calling your bluff.
Sounds like you mad.
Also What bluff?
I never lied nor bluffed.

Artifex

07-31-2010, 02:48 AM

Defiance

07-31-2010, 02:50 AM

Mad? *thinks 'bout it sum* Nah, not mad. ;)

Also, your bluff was the semantics and deliberately avoiding direct confrontation of the subject. In which, you succeeded quite well at, but also failed quite miserably at because it was very easy to detect. ;)

Considering you, another troll, was the only one able to detect it while others Hurr'd and Durr'd.
I think you may be the Herp to my Derp.
Maybe me and you should make a thread on the debate forum about the Art of Trolling.

Artifex

07-31-2010, 02:52 AM

Considering you, another troll, was the only one able to detect it while others Hurr'd and Durr'd.
I think you may be the Herp to my Derp.
Maybe me and you should make a thread on the debate forum about the Art of Trolling.

Nope, Blue is already the Herp to my Derp. I only shake hands with the finer, more subtle practitioners of trolling. To that I bid you a good day, fine sir!

Defiance

07-31-2010, 02:53 AM

Nope, Blue is already the Herp to my Derp. I only shake hands with the finer, more subtle practitioners of trolling. To that I bid you a good day, fine sir!
Protip:Being snobby saying you are a finer troll is in fact a common newfag and fail troll tactic.

Artifex

07-31-2010, 02:57 AM

Protip:Being snobby saying you are a finer troll is in fact a common newfag and fail troll tactic.

Quite the opposite, my trollkin. See as you are such an easy troll to detect so far, regardless of whether or not I was the only one to actually detect you, it raises the question of your ability to avoid the troll detection of other trolls.

Defiance

07-31-2010, 03:00 AM

Quite the opposite, my trollkin. See as you are such an easy troll to detect so far, regardless of whether or not I was the only one to actually detect you, it raises the question of your ability to avoid the troll detection of other trolls.
Not that you aren't that hard to detect as well considering."HURR DURR I R MSTER RCE TROLOLOLOLOL"
Also Welcome back even though you bid me adieu <3

Hadokenchild

07-31-2010, 03:02 AM

Artifex

07-31-2010, 03:04 AM

Not that you aren't that hard to detect as well considering."HURR DURR I R MSTER RCE TROLOLOLOLOL"
Also Welcome back even though you bid me adieu <3

Well considering I never said I was the master troll. I only said that I shake hands with THEE master trololololers. By the way, thanks for the welcome back.

Defiance

07-31-2010, 03:05 AM

Whadya mean the thread lock won't fit? It's a freaking universal lock it locks any thread! Well you guys signed for it so it's your problem now. No exchanges no refunds. But I'll tell you what I'll do, I'll throw in a case of Flamewar brand Fire Extinguishers for nothin...cus...yaknow...ya got a fire brewin' here. Later! *vrooooooom*

YouTube- We Didn't Start The Flame War ?

Well considering I never said I was the master troll. I only said that I shake hands with THEE master trololololers. By the way, thanks for the welcome back.

It's common courtesy.
Also, it's an over exaggeration of you think you are a higher class kind of trollkin.

Artifex

07-31-2010, 03:20 AM

It's common courtesy.
Also, it's an over exaggeration of you think you are a higher class kind of trollkin.

Well, oddly (and conveniently) enough I didn't say I was a higher class kind of trollkin and neither did I imply it. I merely stated that I prefer the company of those that are more subtle and harder to detect. ;)

Sir Shazmanoid

07-31-2010, 03:22 AM

Artifex

07-31-2010, 03:26 AM

I'm confused... Tyler is getting responses from Dylan thus succeeding in trollin', but Dylan is also getting admittedly more civilized replies from Tyler... so who's winning the Troll Fight?

I think Tylar is! :D GO TYLAR! (I bet this thread gets locked before we get to see the winner. :-[)

There is no troll fight here, we are merely kind gentlemen having witting conversation over late night biscuits and tea. Later we shall go out and hunt together like jolly good fools and maybe bring in a live one to skin and eat for dinner. How does that sound my fine fellow?

Defiance

07-31-2010, 03:32 AM

There is no troll fight here, we are merely kind gentlemen having witting conversation over late night biscuits and tea. Later we shall go out and hunt together like jolly good fools and maybe bring in a live one to skin and eat for dinner. How does that sound my fine fellow?
Indeed! This would indubitably sounds like fun.Let's get to it ol'chap!
(This thread was only really made for Coyote.I got bored during it,so thats why I obviously trolled.)

Coyote1023

07-31-2010, 09:07 AM

Lol, I'm mad? I was trolling you in the skype chat as seen by my method of proving your logic wrong. That's hilarious.

Locked.

Null Parameter

07-31-2010, 10:52 AM

I came up with the name originally. It's definitely XForgery, just in case anybody was still questioning that fact.

I have already stated that I made this thread because of Coyote,That I know it is XForgery, and that I have been trolling.
This forum is made for debating, not trolling. Defiance's privilege for the Debate Forum has been removed.

Let this serve as a warning to everybody else for the future. We reserve the right to eject anybody from this forum that misuses it. Stay civil.